New EL player questions and comments

Spitfyre · Post by **Spitfyre** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:48 pm

Hi there. Been playing for a week or so. Love that Excalibur missile pack!

Miscellaneous questions/comments...

I've just noticed I seem to be speed-limited to 3800, in "Inertial" mode. Once I've upped my speed in a direction to 3800, applying more thrust in that direction has no effect - except using up fuel. I was kind of expecting to use good ol' Newtonian style of crossing large distances - fire thrusters for a long time in the required direction to get up some serious velocity, then sit pretty while I fly along, then decel once I've got where I'm going. I take it this is intentional "soft edges" for the physics model?

I meet ships in deep(ish) space, out in the middle of nowhere. Is every ship "real" and a long-term fixture in the universe? Or are they spawned around you to add life, then unmade once their bit-part is over?

I hear talk of a Beacon Quest. Did I miss some vital initial clue in th game? Did I not do something I shoulda done? Or do all things come to those who wait?

I've got a Science Officer and Nav Officer living with me in that cramped little ship of mine. Glad it's only a game, or we'd be getting THEE SPACE MADNESS by now. They very occasionally pipe up and pretend to earn their massively inflated salary by telling me about containers "over that way". Great, thanks... but is there some way to prod them to give me a revised bearing/inclination every so often??? Right now, I have to wake them up by using my FD to hop over to the next sector, then hop back! I pay these jokers enough to give me more than an initial hint per sector jump, hehe. Any way to trigger another direction message?

Also, dumb mouse-waving user alert: "Exit" and "Save" buttons are adjacent in the main menu. I just whacked the former by accident (duh), and found there was no CANCEL selection. Escape key doesn't cancel either. All you can do is, er, Exit or Exit without Saving! Oops.

Typical newbie discovery. I bet nobody does this once they know what they are doing...

verbosity · Post by **verbosity** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:06 pm

Originally posted by Spitfyre
I've just noticed I seem to be speed-limited to 3800, in "Inertial" mode..... ....I take it this is intentional "soft edges" for the physics model?

Mainly for gameplay reasons, the in-game reason is given that even on inertial your frame is subject to 'vibration' different, and thus your speed is limited by the ship to maximium safe levels. engines can compensate for this effect to varying amounts....

I meet ships in deep(ish) space, out in the middle of nowhere. Is every ship "real" and a long-term fixture in the universe? Or are they spawned around you to add life, then unmade once their bit-part is over?

Spawned and unmade, but not just to 'add life' these ships are going somewhere, and doing things, they will also have their own 'reputation' in regards to you. Also if they were all 'real' some pilots would find space very empty ( even now some miners find it quiet in the area around pices )

I hear talk of a Beacon Quest. Did I miss some vital initial clue in th game? Did I not do something I shoulda done? Or do all things come to those who wait?

easiest way, create a new profile, and go into the main game ( not training) you'll bump into the first beacon straight away

Great, thanks... but is there some way to prod them to give me a revised bearing/inclination every so often??? Right now, I have to wake them up by using my FD to hop over to the next sector, then hop back!

yup thats pretty much it! back in the old days it wasn't so easy......

[Edited on 3-25-2009 by verbosity]

Draakjacht · Post by **Draakjacht** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:52 pm

In regards to the thrust idea, there is an upper limit for anything. What Newtonian physics didn't initially say is that how fast an object can be pushed is limited by the size of the pusher and pushed. Even in space, an engine the size of a speed boat would have a negligible affect to a planet. If it were not so, then theoretically we could get a ship to go the speed of light.

So your engine, no matter how hard it burns, has a ceiling to what it can accomplish. I've looked at the caps in this game and given the engine size, those things must be amazingly powerful to get a cap anywhere. Of course, if the engines are THAT powerful, then fighters would probably push so hard the Gs would squish ya.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:24 pm

I agree that the crew should be doing much more for the amount they get paid, and when you do not pay them enough of an increment they leave you! practicaly doing nothing!LOL:P:P:P

Draakjacht · Post by **Draakjacht** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:23 pm

So that raises the question: Are they worth the pay? I imagine that they might be when I'm making more than enough to swell my coffers and I have less need for technological advancement.

49rTbird · Post by **49rTbird** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:32 pm

Hello Spitfyre, welcome to the forum and the Sim.

Bossk · Post by **Bossk** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:35 pm

Hi Spitfyre. Enjoy.

(sorry I missed you tonight Tbird, would have liked to meet you in the flech (so to speak))

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:42 pm

Oooh Yes, I forgot! Hi Spitfyre, Welcome to the game and forum!;)

Draakjacht · Post by **Draakjacht** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:02 pm

I guess I should be part of the welcome wagon now. HI SPITFYRE!

And hey, Bossk. Fun getting a-sploded in your presence. I'll have to get another ship and we do it again sometime.

tha_rami · Post by **tha_rami** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:20 am

Welcome there.

Personally, I have a Weapons Op and an Engineer. That's all I need, honestly. Science Ops just costs me money, and Navigators are simply annoying.

Ah well.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:32 am

Originally posted by tha_rami
Welcome there.

Personally, I have a Weapons Op and an Engineer. That's all I need, honestly. Science Ops just costs me money, and Navigators are simply annoying.

Ah well.

Hire the Science Ops and make him pay by decreasing the increments to -5000, so he owes you money. And if he does not want to pay you, well then he can leave!LOL:P:P:P

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:08 am

Just "leave"? I thought that's what the airlock door was for! Once you shove one ungrateful crewman out the airlock, the rest will tow the line! Count on it!:P

Buback · Post by **Buback** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:33 am

Originally posted by MMaggio
Just "leave"? I thought that's what the airlock door was for! Once you shove one ungrateful crewman out the airlock, the rest will tow the line! Count on it!:P

HAHAHA sound like good plan

:P

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:31 pm

Originally posted by MMaggio
Just "leave"? I thought that's what the airlock door was for! Once you shove one ungrateful crewman out the airlock, the rest will tow the line! Count on it!:P

Yeah, but then you can not send creditors after him on your behalf to collect all they can from his possesions to pay his debt to you!, You can not collect from a Dead man can you?
Just good bussiness practice kinda I think!LOL:P:P:P

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:34 pm

Welcome aboard.

Buback · Post by **Buback** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:36 pm

Originally posted by Maarschalk
Originally posted by MMaggio
Just "leave"? I thought that's what the airlock door was for! Once you shove one ungrateful crewman out the airlock, the rest will tow the line! Count on it!:P
Yeah, but then you can not send creditors after him on your behalf to collect all they can from his possesions to pay his debt to you!, You can not collect from a Dead man can you?
Just good bussiness practice kinda I think!LOL:P:P:P

U have to hire only family guys, cuz theirs wives r responsible for all debts from their husbands

:P;)

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:53 am

Originally posted by Buback
Originally posted by Maarschalk
Originally posted by MMaggio
Just "leave"? I thought that's what the airlock door was for! Once you shove one ungrateful crewman out the airlock, the rest will tow the line! Count on it!:P
Yeah, but then you can not send creditors after him on your behalf to collect all they can from his possesions to pay his debt to you!, You can not collect from a Dead man can you?
Just good bussiness practice kinda I think!LOL:P:P:P
U have to hire only family guys, cuz theirs wives r responsible for all debts from their husbands :P;)

But what if the crew member is female? I should have said after him or her and his or her possesions!LOL:P:P:P

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:29 am

I understood that ALL crewmembers were female.
I stand by my original suggestion!;)

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:01 pm

Originally posted by MMaggio
I understood that ALL crewmembers were female.
I stand by my original suggestion!;)

Cruel!(Do not take this personal Ladies!)LOL:P:P:P

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:14 pm

Originally posted by Maarschalk
Originally posted by MMaggio
I understood that ALL crewmembers were female.
I stand by my original suggestion!;)
Cruel!(Do not take this personal Ladies!)LOL:P:P:P

I agree...

Buback · Post by **Buback** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:39 pm

Im sorry about that ladies, but ....

Originally posted by MMaggio
I understood that ALL crewmembers were female.
I stand by my original suggestion!;)

In that case i fire all my staff. Can u imagine single man pilot surrounded by women crewmembers? No way!!
Why u fly so fast ... why u shooting as blind or similiar ...

:P

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:54 pm

ROFL!! Nag, nag, nag, nag!
Again, I stand by my original suggestion!
It has a tendency to keep nagging to a minumum... "If you don't like the way I fly, there's the airlock door!"

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:46 pm

ROFL*COUGH**MORE COUGHS**ANOTHER BIG COUGH*LOL:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P