Which Control Device Do You Play Evochron With?

Ferreus · Post by **Ferreus** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:42 pm

I have a wish, but I don't think a new Topic needs to be created...

When calibrating the control buttons in the options, there is a <click here> to delete the button assignment.

Could this *please* be extended on the keyboard keys too? Currently, it just deletes the joystick setting!

IMO this is important, because when those settings are done acording to personal preferations, the steady exchange of the key assignments causes some functions to be set kind of random, and those can be dangerous (f. ex. "escape and self destruct ship")!

Post by **Vice** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:54 pm

If you do that, then you remove the control entirely. Why not just move a function to something obscure rather than removing being able to use it at all?

Goatnado386 · Post by **Goatnado386** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:38 pm

Originally posted by Vice
If you do that, then you remove the control entirely. Why not just move a function to something obscure rather than removing being able to use it at all?

It's a personal perference thing. I, too, like to start off by unbinding all key commands, then figuring out which commands I want and assigning keys to them. It's not critical. It *feels* important, though.

Post by **Vice** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:12 am

Yeah, the more I think about Ferreus' point, the more it makes sense. Ok plan on a clear key option for the next update.

Goatnado386 · Post by **Goatnado386** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:22 pm

Or how about this point... if a player is physically disabled in some way and they tend to press more than one key at once, a key clear is also a good idea so they can set game keys spaced out from each other. Just a thought.

Berdyon · Post by **Berdyon** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:25 pm

Oh yeah, I like that last one let's consider the physically impaired... a really convincing argument you got there. Like, if I were blind, I would be very much helped by having the keys further away from each other...
To be honest I think this game has so many keys that it is impossible to actually space them out that much...
Anyway, a 'reconfigure keys" button might be usefull.

In case it's still the subject of the topic... I use a mouse... or wasn't that the question?

[Edited on 2-20-2008 by Berdyon]

Scabbo · Post by **Scabbo** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:41 am

Hi folks.

Since the poll requested specifics if we use a Joystick or Gamepad:

I use the Logitec Extreme 3d Pro. I don't like it as much as I liked my old Saitek Cyborg but it will do for now.

My only complaint about it is that I cannot individually adjust the sensitivity of the axes. I'd think that the joystick drivers should provide that kind of fine-tuning. My roll (twist on the joystick) seems TOO sensitive compared to the other 2 axes.

--Scabbo

madmax · Post by **madmax** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:07 am

I use a Saitek Cyborg Evo Force Feedback. It replaced a Microsoft Sidewinder 2.

SilverWolf · Post by **SilverWolf** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:07 am

Well, I got to say, I use the Saitek X-52 stick with the TrackIR. Got to love that head movement!!!

Berdyon · Post by **Berdyon** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:06 pm

What, you actually got headtracking?

How? I mean, isn't that like VERY SCI FI?

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:36 am

Berdyon, click here.....
http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/02- ... ideos.html

Berdyon · Post by **Berdyon** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:25 am

That is pretty awesome, thanks!

Mechanical · Post by **Mechanical** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:16 pm

Awww... geez. Now I have to go out and buy an X-52. I have an X-45 but I don't use it for space-sims because I can't stand the rocker rudder control. I had assumed the X-52 was the same but now I see that it has a twist rudder.

I was just using a MS Sidewinder Precision 2 (pretty old, but actually a fine stick) because, even with all of the features of the X-45, the twist clinches it. I use the x-axis for roll and the rudder for yaw because it makes it easier to transition between space sims/flight sims.

I see BestBuy has X-52's on sale for $90. Ebay has some slightly better deals but it looks like they'll still end up $60-$70 including shipping once it's all said and done and I'd rather just go out and pick a new one up at the store.

There is nothing like having big clunky controls in front of you covered with buttons, switches, knobs, sliders and LEDs to make you feel like you're in a space-ship.

Oh, and hello. I'm new.

mbv · Post by **mbv** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:14 pm

Using Saitek X-52 and TrackIR here and both work fine. I was amazed to find this game has support for TrackIR when so many of the latest space sims do not include it. It just adds immersion in bucketloads to an already immersive game.

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:14 am

Originally posted by Mechanical
Awww... geez. Now I have to go out and buy an X-52. I have an X-45 but I don't use it for space-sims because I can't stand the rocker rudder control. I had assumed the X-52 was the same but now I see that it has a twist rudder.
Oh, and hello. I'm new.

You like the twist control? I have an X52, but refuse to use it because I think "twist" is unnatural. I prefer the "rocker" any day!
Btw, Saitek has it's own store and they sell "reconditioned" contollers at 1/2 price with full warranties. Check them out @
www.saitekusa.com [I think that's right, or close]

Skiiwa · Post by **Skiiwa** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:56 pm

I have the X52 but I have to unplug my CH pro pedals to play as Evo thinks thats my main controler..Does anyone know how to make them work together in Evo?

I have the beta drivers for the X52. There used to be a way in the joystick control panel that U could set the Controller ID's but it does not seem to be there now. Seems Its setting My pro pedals as the Primary controller.

Chris

Post by **Vice** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:58 pm

I have the X52 but I have to unplug my CH pro pedals to play as Evo thinks thats my main controler..Does anyone know how to make them work together in Evo?

CH devices are notorious for forcing their way into top device slots and not allowing you to make changes. See the instructions near the bottom (the device2set.txt file under technical notes) for the multiple device option where you can adapt the game to work with two devices, including one that blocks other devices from the primary slot.

Skiiwa · Post by **Skiiwa** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:13 pm

Ok, I've done a search on my puter for device2set.txt... Can't seem to find it. I'm playing renagades if it matters.

I have to unplug it to play Planetside to..I LOVE CH stuff but its so expensive I only have the pedals.

Post by **Vice** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:17 pm

Again, in the instructions. You need to create the file in the game's folder and input the needed device slot setting value, then test and adjust as needed.

Also referenced in this thread: http://www.starwraith.com/forum/viewtop ... 1#pid30159

[Edited on 2-23-2008 by Vice]

Skiiwa · Post by **Skiiwa** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:32 pm

In the Joy control panel, it does not give a ID number. Ive tried 2,5,6. All I put in the text file is the number? So far Renegades does not notice it.

Post by **Vice** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:40 pm

Did you try the number 1? Did you try the unplug-then-plug in method?

Skiiwa · Post by **Skiiwa** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:59 pm

Yes, I tried number 1 first...Cause its number 1:) Dont worry about It Vice, Im sure U can find somthing much funner to do on a Saturday than try to get some guys pedals to work so he doesnt have to unplug the device hehehe..Its really not that important..I will just Unplug it. It screws up a few other games also. It works GREAT in FSX and FS2004 and thats the main reason I got the pedals.

I cant belive they took out the ID and the ability to set controller priority in the Joy control panel.

BTW, Thanks for the support on Saturday:)P

I just bought VUE6 and Need to see what it can do...Time to get artistic:P

Chris

Post by **Vice** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:27 pm

It's no problem, happy to help. It will work, just requires setting the right slot and unplugging/plugging it in (or turning it off/on) at the right time.

etien · Post by **etien** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:48 am

playing with a xbox360 controler atm

I will try the combo "logitech wingman" + "ch pilots peddals" (my usual x3 reunion setup) once I find the time to create a Evochron setup for the rudders.

Zenethian · Post by **Zenethian** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:46 pm

I use the Saitek X52 Pro stick.

It rocks hard. Would be nice if the game could interface with the mini-display though.

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