Spherical coords planetside.

Mr.Peanut · Post by **Mr.Peanut** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:14 pm

Since planets now rotate, any chance of having a toggle for display of spherical coords(relative to planet) when in atmospheric piloting mode? Seems like it would be trivial to execute.

My only criticism so far of this great game is that navigation(both on and off planets) is cumbersome. Not the sexiest element in which to invest the effort, but it really needs to be addressed at some point.

Post by **Marvin** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:35 pm

Off-planet navigation is simple ... granted, it looks complicated here:

http://www.starwraith.com/forum/viewtop ... #pid150452

But, once you get used to it (which is a lot easier than learning real-life navigation), you'll find it less cumbersome than other astro-nav systems.

As for getting planetary coordinates, why not post a flow diagram or subroutine for how you'd do it? I'd be interested in your solution.

Mr.Peanut · Post by **Mr.Peanut** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:32 pm

For in-space, it is the navigation interface I feel needs work, not the coordinate system. Zoom out, count grids, zoom in click over and up, oops counted wrong, zoom out count again zoom in, count and click...

Plus it would be nice to see coord info or be able to toggle it in the regular HUD.

As for planet-side.. cartesian to spherical coords is a standard transform. Subtract origin of planet from player position. Transform to spherical. Add/subtract planet rotation to player's longitude.

These are subjective nitpicks. I bought this game over a year ago and have finally invested enough time to get immersed and I am very happy to be here.

Post by **Marvin** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:38 pm

From post: 160233, Topic: tid=10715, author=Mr.Peanut wrote:Plus it would be nice to see coord info or be able to toggle it in the regular HUD.

Try the Explorer Kit available at SeeJay's website. I've been using it for years.

Post by **Vice** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:41 am

For in-space, it is the navigation interface I feel needs work, not the coordinate system. Zoom out, count grids, zoom in click over and up, oops counted wrong, zoom out count again zoom in, count and click...

This sounds like you just may not yet be familiar with the nav console options available to you. You don't need to count grids, zoom, then click the arrows to move the map around. Simply zoom out, locate the sector you want to zoom in on, then -right- click on the sector you want to zoom in on. That will bring up the sector you select immediately, no toggling or counting required. Check out the tutorial videos ( http://www.starwraith.com/evochronmerce ... iverse.htm ) and instructions included with the game for more details on available nav options.

Plus it would be nice to see coord info or be able to toggle it in the regular HUD.

As Marvin points out, this option can be enabled via a simple text file mod. You can check out the customizing kit for more details on the options available, including placement on the HUD.

Post by **Marvin** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:32 am

From post: 160244, Topic: tid=10715, author=Vice wrote:
Plus it would be nice to see coord info or be able to toggle it in the regular HUD.
As Marvin points out, this option can be enabled via a simple text file mod. You can check out the customizing kit for more details on the options available, including placement on the HUD.

Here's a screenshot of the version I use ... the coordinates for my present position (PPOS) are displayed just below the upper HUD, right side ... and can be cycled on-off using the "H" key.

Post by **DaveK** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:47 am

From post: 160238, Topic: tid=10715, author=Marvin wrote:[Try the Explorer Kit available at SeeJay's website. I've been using it for years.

Where is it? What is it called? What does it do?

(Is it EvoMetrics and MapLog?)

SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:56 am

From post: 160253, Topic: tid=10715, author=DaveK wrote:
From post: 160238, Topic: tid=10715, author=Marvin wrote:[Try the Explorer Kit available at SeeJay's website. I've been using it for years.
Where is it? What is it called? What does it do?

(Is it EvoMetrics and MapLog?)

Here it is: http://www.evochron.junholt.se/menus/mods.htm (Marvin's Exploration Hud)

DORN · Post by **DORN** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:13 am

Hi Marvin,

I am assuming that the PPOS data window position is determined buy the numbers in the hud.txt file?

If so, I would like to move that window to the right. Can you tell me which lines I need to change to move up. down, left, right.

You have some lovely features, there.

Thank you.

SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:20 am

This is from the Customizing Kit:

Optional text colors and global HUD font (also uses the \\hud folder):

hudtext.dat = 1st value enables or disables the center text, 0 = disable, 1 = enable
2nd value is red color (0-255), 3rd is for green, 4th is for blue
5th line selects which font style to use, 0 for bold (default), 1 for thin
6th line activates cargo information, 0 = disable, 1 = enable
7th line sets the X position of the cargo text (0-1023)
8th line sets the Y position of the cargo text (0-1023)
9th line activates location information, 0 = disable, 1 = enable
10th line sets the X position of the location text (0-1023)
11th line sets the Y position of the location text (0-1023)
12th line activates and sets the spacing size of the numerical shield indicators
13th line sets the X position of the numerical shield indicators
14th line sets the Y position of the numerical shield indicators

Might be what you need!

Post by **DaveK** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:07 pm

From post: 160254, Topic: tid=10715, author=SeeJay wrote: Here it is: http://www.evochron.junholt.se/menus/mods.htm (Marvin's Exploration Hud)

Thanks - I don't know how I missed it!!

Thanks to Marvin for creating it

DORN · Post by **DORN** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:38 pm

Thanks Marvin for demystifying that.

I saw it in the kit but didn't connect it with the cargo/PPOS.

Will do some experimenting, now.

Is there a right placement limitation issue/constraint same as the chat text left limit?

Post by **Marvin** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:29 pm

The placement I used is to avoid overlap with other displays in the game. Any further right and it overlaps Deploy and Build options. Any further down and it overlaps the timer countdown. If it was on the left side, it would overlap Chat and/or other messages.

If you do move the text, do not use the HUD graphic mod which puts a box over the text ... it's part of the .png and cannot be moved in the same way as the text. If you like, you can cut and paste from the graphic to re-center the boxes over the text after you move the text to a new location. Your decision.