Recommend a Joystick please

Karmasaur · Post by **Karmasaur** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:02 pm

Im going shopping for a joystick tomorrow so I can get better control of the game.

I dont know what ones even work on Legends, or which ones have useable features. Recommendations?

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:11 pm

There is only ONE joystick! If you can afford the Saitek X52, get one! You will not be disappointed. Actually, you might even say the game was designed for the Saitek.
Vice uses one and I would guess more than half the players use it.
If money is limited, look at the Saitek ST90. It offers both left & right-handed control and should provide you with enough buttons to keep the game lively w/o going to the keyboard.
Hope this helps...

Karmasaur · Post by **Karmasaur** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:13 pm

Thank you.

I will see if I can rustle one up.

Karmasaur · Post by **Karmasaur** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:10 pm

MM, while I have your ear, (or anyone who knows), what is the difference between the X52 and the X52 pro. I am looking at a site that describes them both, and be dammed if I can spot what makes the pro twice as expensive as the regular. Is there a difference in regards to Legends?

[Edited on 6-26-2009 by Karmasaur]

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:48 pm

LOL! There's not a whole lot and inmho nothing of any real value during a game.
It's just a bunch of "lights & whistles" that do not affect the outcome of gameplay and I am a staunch supporter of Saitek!
To be honest, I think the best controller they ever made was the Saitek X45. I have three of them. It is no longer made, but excellent deals can be found on Ebay. It's popularity seems to be regaining, but you should still find one for around $40.00 usd
The main diff between the X45 and the X52 is the position of the yaw/roll control. The X52 uses the "twist" method while the X45 uses a dedicated "rocker" mounted on the throttle. I have never heard of anyone buying a "bad" X45, and I think it unlikely.
Another opportunity would be to visit the Saitek web site, www. saitek.com. They usually have "re-conditioned" units for sale w/full warranties at half price, and at the same time you can check out the diff between X52 & X52Pro.
You can U2U me direct for more info.
I have been using the Saitek for more than 15yrs. I also own every major production controller ever made and I think I can give an experienced opinion.
Have fun...

[Edited on 6-26-2009 by MMaggio]

Accountant · Post by **Accountant** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:54 pm

I agree about the X45. I've used that stick for a few years now, and absolutely love it. The only reason I don't use it for Legends is because there's no room in my dorm room for it. I've been looking at something like a Saitek PS38 Cyborg X as a replacement until I graduate and find a bigger place to live in.

-Accountant

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:03 am

Thank you Accountant! But even the Saitek PS38 provides enough buttons to play a good game. Another good choice! I only suggest the ST90 since it works for either left or right hand.
But if our friend here follows good advice, he should start searching for a good X45!

Accountant · Post by **Accountant** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:29 am

I would definitely agree, very solid joystick.

The only reason I have not considered the ST90 is because it doesn't have a typical throttle control, and I prefer the type of throttle on the PS38. Otherwise, it looks very nice, and very compact! It would probably work better for me because of my space limitations, if I weren't such a snob

-Accountant

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:55 am

Alternatively, you might look "Trustmaster Hotas".
If you want to use it for long time, look for HOTAS added to joystick name. Really hard to get use to it, when change your joystick fast.

Saitek has good joysticks, you will like it.
Buy once, use long time as MMaggio said If you can afford.

[Edited on 6-27-2009 by warsign]

Karmasaur · Post by **Karmasaur** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:30 am

Thank you all.

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:39 am

Originally posted by Karmasaur
Thank you all.

You're welcome.

Most important improvement about game playing is dead zones between x52 regular and pro imo.

[Edited on 6-27-2009 by warsign]

Karmasaur · Post by **Karmasaur** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:07 pm

Ok.. proud owner of an X52. (not looking foreward to when my significant other sees the credit card print outs).

You X52 owners, do you prgram the joystick with the supplied Saitek software, or do you program it with the ingame tools? Or both? I find that using the ingame tools, doesnt really allow me to utilize all the bells and whistles very well. Also... the ones that I can program ingame, dont seem to work properly. They do "other stuff".

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:23 pm

Programming a controller can be a personal choice. Some players don't like to fool with complicated profile programs and use the in game assignments. Either way, there ARE enough buttons to cover everything.
Personally, I like to use the in-game assignments for all the axis', then use the Saitek program to assign all the other keys.
Assigning the ingame keys to the controller should be straight forward as the controller was practically the model for key assignments. If you are having trouble doing it in-game, you are not doing it right.
If you need help using the Saitek program, U2U me.
Good Luck

[Edited on 6-28-2009 by MMaggio]

wintermute · Post by **wintermute** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:14 pm

Originally posted by Karmasaur
Ok.. proud owner of an X52. (not looking foreward to when my significant other sees the credit card print outs).

You X52 owners, do you prgram the joystick with the supplied Saitek software, or do you program it with the ingame tools? Or both? I find that using the ingame tools, doesnt really allow me to utilize all the bells and whistles very well. Also... the ones that I can program ingame, dont seem to work properly. They do "other stuff".

I recently got an X52 as well. Here is the profile I made if you want to try it out.

Link

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:00 pm

I use the ingame programming for my X52!, and works fine!;)

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:57 pm

Originally posted by Eclipse
Using the game control setting would be nice, but it doesn't seem to see the different modes.

I noticed this. Do you use Saiteks Profile Programing to use the different modes?

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:16 pm

Long time user of the Saitek "X" series.
I use Vice's in game for all axis' assignments, but to get the max usage from the controller, all key assignments are done with the controllers software.
If anyone needs help on learning how to do this, I will be glad to explain it. It's easy, really.

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:27 am

Yes as MMaggio says, I heart this "different mods" thing, X52 uses it.
But first I have to buy an X52!

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:54 pm

Originally posted by MMaggio
Long time user of the Saitek "X" series.
I use Vice's in game for all axis' assignments, but to get the max usage from the controller, all key assignments are done with the controllers software.
If anyone needs help on learning how to do this, I will be glad to explain it. It's easy, really.

Are you able to use the 3 different modes of the X52?
and if so, do you use the X52 profile programming software to do this?

wintermute · Post by **wintermute** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:08 pm

Originally posted by Maarschalk
Are you able to use the 3 different modes of the X52?
and if so, do you use the X52 profile programming software to do this?

The profile I posted above uses all three modes of the X52. I have them set up for Navigation, Mining, and Combat.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:30 pm

Thanks guys, I knew it was possible but never tried it, just wanted to know if any one was using Saitek software!

BraveHart · Post by **BraveHart** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:55 pm

Originally posted by Eclipse
Originally posted by Maarschalk
Thanks guys, I knew it was possible but never tried it, just wanted to know if any one was using Saitek software!
Most of my "incredible" feats are only possible using the SST.

"SSSSSSHHHHH"......Quiet, [NS]Clan might hear you

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:01 pm

Originally posted by BraveHart
Originally posted by Eclipse
Originally posted by Maarschalk
Thanks guys, I knew it was possible but never tried it, just wanted to know if any one was using Saitek software!
Most of my "incredible" feats are only possible using the SST.
"SSSSSSHHHHH"......Quiet, [NS]Clan might hear you

I suspected this much! Guess I have some programming to do for my next PvP encounter with Eclipse! LOL:P:P:P:P:P

49rTbird · Post by **49rTbird** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:24 pm

At least one knows there is hope, yes one does does one. (lol)

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:23 pm

Originally posted by Eclipse
Originally posted by BraveHart
"SSSSSSHHHHH"......Quiet, [NS]Clan might hear you
Hearing and replicating are very different things.

I am very good at replicating. Most of my job at the moment is replication! No, not the kind where the opposite sex is required! ROFL:P:P:P:P:P