Mystery Solved

Post by **Marvin** » Thu May 13, 2010 4:27 am

In the Cerulean War Zone, I can't call up System Information from the News Console. But ... oddly enough, I can call it up from that other galalxy (name withheld to avoid a Spoiler Alert) ... and, when I do, it lists the first planet in the system as Sapphire.* It could be that my download was borked so ... if anyone is visiting that other galaxy, please check the System Info for erroneous data.

* The News Console does call the system by its correct name ... listing all items and, with the exception of fuel, pricing them at zero (0) credits.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu May 13, 2010 4:33 pm

Hmmmmm, I'll check it out next time I'm in the other Galaxy, it takes relatively millions of lightyears to get there so you might have to wait relatively some time before I'll get back to you.....LOL.....

:P:P:P:P

Post by **Marvin** » Thu May 13, 2010 4:44 pm

Sure thing. I'll bring a lunch.

Post by **Marvin** » Thu May 13, 2010 10:02 pm

Sapphire also shows up as the planet of choice (News -- System Info) in the Wolf system.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu May 13, 2010 11:43 pm

It might be the case in all the hidden systems since their economy and news is unknown so you get the default news of Saphire.....maybe....relatively....?;)

Post by **Marvin** » Fri May 14, 2010 4:46 pm

Actually, you do get news for the correct system ... Wolf has a pretty active economy. But, when going from there (News) to the System information page, the listing (and description) is for Sapphire.

Post by **Vice** » Fri May 14, 2010 5:00 pm

Probably that way for a few other systems as well. If there is no data for a system, or if the system is linked to another for reputations, the game will display either default details (first in the database) or details for a linked system. Others will just result in a beep without any system details being available.

Post by **Marvin** » Fri May 14, 2010 6:49 pm

I wasn't surprised to see Sapphire listed when my ship was in the other galaxy ... I had the same problem when trying to mod the "universedata" file. I figured it had something to do with the game engine getting confused if the system in question was really far away. And, in Wolf, I probably wouldn't have even noticed ... except I was looking everywhere, hoping to find some clue as to the function of one of the local artifacts.

Post by **Marvin** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:32 pm

Confirming what Vice said above ...

Andromeda's reputation ID number in the universedata file is the same as Sapphire's (ID=1). And there is no description of the Andromeda system in the systemdata file (nor is there a description for the Wolf system). Which is why, when you check the System Information section of the News Console, Andromeda displays information for Sapphire (as does the System Info section for Wolf).

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:18 pm

That was my suspision, that it was something relatively simple like that, but I did not want to spend to much time investigating the issue further.....LOL...

Post by **Marvin** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:29 pm

Well, I figured after yesterday's marathon session, trying to get my chatty daughter to Andromeda, I should at least do something constructive. Since I was already in the galactic neighborhood, I decided to confirm the System Information readout and compare it to the files. My conclusions:*

Never doubt Vice.
N00bs never read beyond the first post in the forum.
Never think you'll get anything done when flying with your daughter.

* Check back for additions to this list at a later date.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:38 pm

ROFL.....the first point is now relatively confusing to my theory that everything is relative and nothing is absolute. Never doubting Vice is absolute and absolutely totally confusing me .......

:P:P:P:P:P

[Edited on 5-17-2010 by Maarschalk]

tha_rami · Post by **tha_rami** » Tue May 18, 2010 3:10 pm

@Maarschalk:
Vice has absolute universal knowledge. Even in theoretical many-world interpretations, there are no alternate realities in which Vice doesn't have such a trait.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue May 18, 2010 4:43 pm

That is absolute confusing, Confusing is relative so how can it be absolute, if it is absolute than that would be confusing but it can't be absolute so it must be relative to confusion. So absolute must be relative..........Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....getting a headache.....LOL...