x52 / x45 Profiles. UPLOAD yours here.

Mentat · Post by **Mentat** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:48 am

I thought i would start this thread to help some of the new people with getting started using these 2 really awesome flight sticks.

Just upload your x52 x45 profile here along with a brief description or anything we need to now about it.

Thanks

[Edited on 9-25-2009 by Mentat]

Mentat · Post by **Mentat** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:17 am

WOW i cant believe that only 1 person has opted to add a profile here.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:38 am

Originally posted by Mentat
WOW i cant believe that only 1 person has opted to add a profile here.

I have 2. here is one of mine you can use. I think there are only a few players that use the profile editor for their X52 the others use the ingame asignments! That is what I used in the beginning. And some players want to keep their profile editor key asignments secret so their opponents in the game will not be able to use it against them. Because they might be able to find your weak spot in programming and then program theirs to attack your weak programming spots in multiplayer!;)

[Edited on 9-27-2009 by Maarschalk]

Mentat · Post by **Mentat** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:11 am

yeah i get that, i guess i just want a good starting point. on that note, Eclipse the starter you sent me was a great starting point, so thanks!

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:56 am

Originally posted by Eclipse
Originally posted by Maarschalk
And some players want to keep their profile editor key asignments secret so their opponents in the game will not be able to use it against them. Because they might be able to find your weak spot in programming and then program theirs to attack your weak programming spots in multiplayer!;)
That is why I only offer the one profile, it's very basic and nothing like what I use now.

Darn it ! I thought I would learn some of your secrets Eclipse.

Do not worry the one I sent is also quit different from the one I use now!

LOL:P:P:P:P:P

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:10 am

My profile is for X45 and I have been told, on an older driver and can't be used with newer drivers.

Wedge598 · Post by **Wedge598** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:09 pm

I have an X45 and I'm not using any really earth shattering setup but I can tell you that I've got the pinky shift set as my IDS toggle and my throttle fire button as the afterburners. This works well to let me switch easily back and forth between the different modes and keep good control of the ship.

I tried to set one of the wheel axis' on the throttle to a directional setting which would input the [ and ] keys to allow me to adjust the energy to weapons and shields with a nice dial effect. In theory it should work but for some reason it does nothing in the game. The profile test shows it working but nada in game. Any thoughts?

Wedge598 · Post by **Wedge598** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:58 am

Using bands does not work as you need to be able to reverse the settings to back the other way. If I set up 10 bands with the first five the "[" and the second five the "]" I'll be able to shift energy all the way to sheilds but by moving the axis all the way the other direction I'd only get back to neutral and would have to slide the axis back to center again to move energy to weapons.

With directional control the control sends the "[" keypress whenever I move the axis left and a "]" when ever I move it right which would work to allow me to precisely control the setting.

It's moot however as something somewhere is preventing the game from recognizing the input from the directional setting.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:25 pm

Originally posted by Wedge598
Using bands does not work as you need to be able to reverse the settings to back the other way. If I set up 10 bands with the first five the "[" and the second five the "]" I'll be able to shift energy all the way to sheilds but by moving the axis all the way the other direction I'd only get back to neutral and would have to slide the axis back to center again to move energy to weapons.

With directional control the control sends the "[" keypress whenever I move the axis left and a "]" when ever I move it right which would work to allow me to precisely control the setting.

It's moot however as something somewhere is preventing the game from recognizing the input from the directional setting.

The problem here is that if you set 10 bands on one of the directional dial buttons that when you return the dial to center you activate again the same 5 bands on your way back to center position. The Shield/Energy setting has 11 distinct positions it is not gradual. You do not have a setting of 1.5 or 2.25 etc... . You have 5, 4 , 3, 2, 1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 so you would need 11 bands, but that is besides the point. The problem is reversing without activating the Keypress again in the 5 bands you have to cross to get back to neutral. So you would need 13 Bands 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, ] Return to zero repeat or delay assigned, 0, [ Return to zero repeat or delay assigned, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And even this might not work due to activation of keypresses upon your reverse to neutral or opposite direction. You could program one of the buttons to go up a certain amount of keypresses and in the opposite direction down a number of keypresses. I have set my wheel mouse button on throttle control of my Saitek X52 to do this.

[Edited on 10-6-2009 by Maarschalk]

Wedge598 · Post by **Wedge598** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:24 pm

Originally posted by Maarschalk
Originally posted by Wedge598
Using bands does not work as you need to be able to reverse the settings to back the other way. If I set up 10 bands with the first five the "[" and the second five the "]" I'll be able to shift energy all the way to sheilds but by moving the axis all the way the other direction I'd only get back to neutral and would have to slide the axis back to center again to move energy to weapons.

With directional control the control sends the "[" keypress whenever I move the axis left and a "]" when ever I move it right which would work to allow me to precisely control the setting.

It's moot however as something somewhere is preventing the game from recognizing the input from the directional setting.
The problem here is that if you set 10 bands on one of the directional dial buttons that when you return the dial to center you activate again the same 5 bands on your way back to center position. The Shield/Energy setting has 11 distinct positions it is not gradual. You do not have a setting of 1.5 or 2.25 etc... . You have 5, 4 , 3, 2, 1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 so you would need 11 bands, but that is besides the point. The problem is reversing without activating the Keypress again in the 5 bands you have to cross to get back to neutral. So you would need 13 Bands 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, ] Return to zero repeat or delay assigned, 0, [ Return to zero repeat or delay assigned, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And even this might not work due to activation of keypresses upon your reverse to neutral or opposite direction. You could program one of the buttons to go up a certain amount of keypresses and in the opposite direction down a number of keypresses. I have set my wheel mouse button on throttle control of my Saitek X52 to do this.

[Edited on 10-6-2009 by Maarschalk]

You hit the nail right on the head Maarschalk. And the solution is right there in the way the "directional" option works. I've set it up and in the test mode it works perfectly. As I move the axis all the way to the left the controller registers 5 presses of "[". When I start to move it back to center the controller registers 5 more "]" which brings me right back to neutral when the axis is centered.

Unfortunately, as I said, something gets blocked somewhere and those key presses aren't picked up inside the game.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:53 pm

I tested it out trying to assign rotary dial to Shields/Energy. It does not work because there is a conflict of key assignment between in game programming of keys and Saiteks controller assignment. The Rotary dials are assigned to Axis in game and if you choose no Axis control then the control is from the Keyboard and since the two [] buttons work differently then a regular key press, the only way to use them is to assign them to a button function of a controler stick or assign bands to the rotary.

Wedge598 · Post by **Wedge598** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:10 pm

Originally posted by Eclipse
Originally posted by Wedge598
Using bands does not work as you need to be able to reverse the settings to back the other way. If I set up 10 bands with the first five the "[" and the second five the "]" I'll be able to shift energy all the way to sheilds but by moving the axis all the way the other direction I'd only get back to neutral and would have to slide the axis back to center again to move energy to weapons.

With directional control the control sends the "[" keypress whenever I move the axis left and a "]" when ever I move it right which would work to allow me to precisely control the setting.

It's moot however as something somewhere is preventing the game from recognizing the input from the directional setting.
Using bands does work, and works very well, just ask those that have fought against me. Both of my rotaries, slider, and mini-stick have bands which has greatly increased some functions.

When setting up bands for power distribution you can only create a setup with 3 bands; this is a game engine limitation, not a programming one. The center band should be clear (set to "do nothing") with the other two bands set for [ and ]. Power distribution is designed in the game to be changed only by single increments.

OK, I will try that out. But will this allow you to se the energy to weapons or shield by increments or is it going to give you an all or nothing effect? I'm confused as to how it's going to recognize that if I roll the rotary part way I want only part of the energy transfered (say +3 or so)? And when I roll it back won't I have to go past center to get it to start moving back the other way?

BENERICK · Post by **BENERICK** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:56 pm

Use it like a switch turn to activate and stop when it hits the amount u need. Ill post mine so u can try it out, Im not afraid of my profile being used against me LOL

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:41 pm

I just use the rotaries for strafing. solves all those probs!

BENERICK · Post by **BENERICK** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:41 pm

Oh sure now u give instructions LOL

Wedge598 · Post by **Wedge598** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:30 pm

I see now. I tried it out and found that it did work as you described as an on/off switch. I guess that will suffice but I was really hoping that the directional thing would work because that would be much better suited for this function.

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:30 am

By "directional", do you mean for strafing?

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:12 am

He was trying to use one of the rotary dials set to Directional Axis in his profile editor to control his energy settings.
For the X52 you can assign buttons and dials in profile editor in several ways. You can set it as bands or as a Directional Axis or Fallback or Unprogrammed. And then you can assign key presses to the bands or Directional Axis.

BENERICK · Post by **BENERICK** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:38 pm

Well I tried to post it but it wont go up it says its to big but its onlt 52k big so what am I doin wrong????

[Edited on 10-7-2009 by BENERICK]

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:16 pm

Originally posted by BENERICK
Well I tried to post it but it wont go up it says its to big but its onlt 52k big so what am I doin wrong????

[Edited on 10-7-2009 by BENERICK]

You mean your profile ? Zip it and then post it as a zipped file.

BENERICK · Post by **BENERICK** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:26 pm

2nd Attempt

BENERICK · Post by **BENERICK** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:27 pm

Cool Thanks Maars

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:38 pm

Your Welcome, and thanks for posting yours, downloaded yours to see how you have been using yours. LOL

:P:P

BENERICK · Post by **BENERICK** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:41 pm

No prob its why I posted it LOL:P:P:P

IckleChesh · Post by **IckleChesh** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:27 pm

Nope, stuck! No idea what I am to do with the profiles I have downloaded. The extensions of these profiles are .pr0, but the SST is looking for .dat files.

Help would be greatly appreciated.

IC