Best Joystick?

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:33 pm

I am asking you two to do it yourselfs.
You guys know the rules. No name calling and no baiting. Among others.
I thank you & the forum thanks you.

xman1 · Post by **xman1** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:34 pm

Originally posted by Eclipse
There is a USAF directive that does not allow pictures of a production F-22's flight controls.
While the F-22 flight stick may be similar to an F-16's (made by same company), there are notable differences with the number and position of the stick's hats. When you get right down to it every jet fighter flight stick has been similar since at least the F-4, because the shape of a pilot's hand has not changed.

If you do not have a budget, look for a Suncom F-15 Talon/SFS HOTAS system. These are old controllers, probably only available through eBay or maybe Amazon.

Thanks for validating my argument. The stick in question is the one pictured above.

You have already shown your word is no good, you did say you were done arguing. If that was not true, how can anything else you have posted about this be true? I can nicely disregard everything said by you on this point

I'm sorry, that is your baiting and flawed logic. Quite funny though.

Have a nice day.

-X

[Edited on 7-1-2009 by xman1]

xman1 · Post by **xman1** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:37 pm

Originally posted by MMaggio
I am asking you two to do it yourselfs.
You guys know the rules. No name calling and no baiting. Among others.
I thank you & the forum thanks you.

I apologize. I was baited and i fell for it. I was trying to have a normal logical conversation.

-X

[Edited on 7-1-2009 by xman1]

Post by **Marvin** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:17 pm

The Air Force Phantom F-4 came in three primary models: C, D, E. There was also the RF (recce) and Wild Weasel. The Navy version had other models. Greece, Germany and Isreal had models. Each version had a slightly different setup. And planes that were modifed, after production, sometimes differed even though they were of the same model.

My guess is the newer aircraft go through a similar process. So it would seem kind of silly to argue about minor dissimilarities.

Btw, the equipment in a simulator should be as close as possible to the aircraft being flown. There's an old pilot saying: you fight like you train. Since all emergency procedures are practiced in the simulator, it could make for a really bad day if a pilot had a flameout on approach to land and then initiated EMR procedures he'd learned in the simulator ... only to find that the corresponding switches were located elsewhere in the actual cockpit.

xman1 · Post by **xman1** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:18 pm

You are correct. Here is the response from my friend who is the F-16 pilot on the picture of the stick above:

Looks right to me, however I have not been in one since 2005.

The training sticks are identical. The point being is that its a very comfortable design. The cougar is the same. Your hand rests on it and its all about input.

Take it or leave it as you will, but I like the F-16 design. Feels good. All hats are within your finger tips, though it looks like the F-22 version is slightly more refined for hat distance from the fingers.

-X

[Edited on 7-2-2009 by xman1]

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:17 pm

Are there another joysticks better than Cougar?
Any idea?

[Edited on 7-2-2009 by warsign]

verbosity · Post by **verbosity** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:32 pm

yup!

[Edited on 7-2-2009 by verbosity]

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:38 pm

Originally posted by verbosity
yup!

Yes this is true.
I remember my Atari 800 XL 64 k days...
It is still operational by the way.

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:58 pm

And I still have my Atari 2600! And it is hooked up to the TV and still plays great!
Mostly I play Blackjack on it and drink Scotch and pretend I am James Bond @ Monte Carlo!
I think the game cheats, too! I seem to never get past $500.00. It might be the Scotch tho!:P

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:02 pm

Originally posted by Eclipse
Originally posted by warsign
Are there another joystick better than Cougar?
Any idea?
If you have a big budget (or money is no object) check out HiRevSims.

Thank you.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:43 am

I will have an extra X45 next week sometime if anyone is interested.... Didn't figure i'd win both auctions... lol

Ender

shewter · Post by **shewter** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:18 am

Originally posted by verbosity
yup!

[Edited on 7-2-2009 by verbosity]

hehehe too funny:P

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:31 am

Originally posted by Ender
I will have an extra X45 next week sometime if anyone is interested.... Didn't figure i'd win both auctions... lol

Ender

Someone should grab this! It's the best "X" controller Saitek ever made. It has more buttons & switches than the X52!

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:23 am

WOW.
Also looks awesome.
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