Warzone should be tougher!

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:22 pm

This is just a suggestion.
I think once you enter the warzone all combatants should be hostile!
The Navy should destroy all who enter the warzone for trespassing and other unspeakable offenses!

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:26 pm

Hey Star King! Lighten up!:D

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:31 pm

This game is riot!
I love the fighting graphics and sounds!!!!
Eclipse, Scott, Ben, Gorf and Exim really make this game fun and interesting. All Good Guys!!!!

Romulan please try to kill me!!!!!! LOL:P

verbosity · Post by **verbosity** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:37 pm

Originally posted by Star King
This is just a suggestion.
I think once you enter the warzone all combatants should be hostile!
The Navy should destroy all who enter the warzone for trespassing and other unspeakable offenses!

just shoot one of the navy ships, they will turn red at that point

Post by **Vice** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:46 pm

You can also attack the battle carrier, which will turn all local allied military ships hostile very quickly

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:00 pm

Originally posted by verbosity
Originally posted by Star King
This is just a suggestion.
I think once you enter the warzone all combatants should be hostile!
The Navy should destroy all who enter the warzone for trespassing and other unspeakable offenses!
just shoot one of the navy ships, they will turn red at that point

Yes, did that by mistake as a rookie in Renagades with my excalibur, I had eliminated all enemies was one left heavily damaged shot it with a nother round of excalibur missiles it took only one of the missiles and the other seven headed for the Green Navy Battle cruiser which upon impact immediately turned red and very hostile!LOL:P:P:P

[Edited on 4-16-2009 by Maarschalk]

Earl · Post by **Earl** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:54 am

I kinda agree, but not just to make everyone hostile. Let's see something like an enemy battle station with heavy defenses, or just more ships.
Also, one person shouldn't be able to take out a capital ship... let's get those things firing beams and particles at players, and making them last longer in a fight. Right now I can hit one with a round of excalibur to knock out the rear shields and strafe the engines to take it out without worrying about missiles all that much. I want to have to risk my life a bit more

Maybe just making it so the shields are too tough for excals and regenerate faster than the reload time would be enough to prompt the need for friends on those missions, and make them last longer with more twists to the action.
OR, maybe capital ships should get counter measures! THAT would be hardcore. And actually, make a lot more sense.

Daedalao · Post by **Daedalao** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:59 am

The capital ships already have a point defense system. Try hitting one on the side with a barrage of excals. There are known weakpoints in the vonari design.

Storm · Post by **Storm** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:35 am

Originally posted by Earl
I kinda agree, but not just to make everyone hostile. Let's see something like an enemy battle station with heavy defenses, or just more ships.

A *Vonari* battlestation is a nice idea.

berighteous · Post by **berighteous** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:50 am

I agree with Eclipse. It's a new warzone opening, presumably they are advancing there. There should be more enemies. The onesie twosies that buzz around aren't particularly menacing.

Exim · Post by **Exim** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:38 am

Slightly off topic... I am still for the idea of an extremely hostile system with much more hostile ships than we currently see in any systems... which I started a post on a long while back... and sadly with little feedback...

Someone's suggestion of a hostile battle station was exactly what I've always been going on about... a vonarian run station/base/whatever... which fires guns/missiles at you...

Ideas:
-- multiple gun array which sprays an area with particle shots with low-ish accuracy and longer range than our ship cannons
-- non-homing explosive of some sort with a small area of effect (like anti-air flak cannons)
-- a "force field" like high energy nebula clouds but disables jumpdrives in and out
-- destructable... More or less like Deathstar like killing method? Timed Nuked in the core?
-- reaching the entrance will require more than just cloaking (stealth)
-- while guns are not destructable but they can be disabled with enough damage or rage missile (perhaps individually targetable like ships that dont move)

Making the base hard to approach/enter but still possible with VERY good dodging would be great fun... it should not be something everyone can achieve... and certainly NOT alone... So I am thinking of something very big and very difficult...

With my limited understand of how this game's programming works... I think this should be do-able without extraordinary effort... altho new units will need to be drawn and maybe new textures too...

PS: I dunno about others, but this is an addon I would willing pay extra for... (perhaps a system where only players with the addon can access with a mechanism alike the demo where it sends you back where you came from...) I have played other games by independent developers which works in a similar way... where it has S1, S2, S3... multiplayer is all compatible... just that each has different license to different features... it is also an incentive for the developer to keep developing extra major features without creating an entirely new game... which I think is fair for both the maker and player...

Vice... please give serious thoughts into this matter...

[Edited on 17-4-2009 by Exim]

[Edited on 17-4-2009 by Exim]

Robert the Robot · Post by **Robert the Robot** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:58 am

Actually, I agree - the one thing Evochron really needs is a series of enemy battlestations/space stations, even planetary cities. It would open up so many more possible missions and make good sense. In each warzone, the Alliance has carriers and space stations but the Vonari only appear for a battle. If this was truly a warzone, surely the Vonari would have a secret base from which to mount their attacks?

It might be a planetary city (or perhaps smaller than normal cities) or an orbiting space station, maybe hidden by Stealth fields, but strongly defended and not somewhere a player would be permitted to land. There could even be new and highly dangerous missions introduced requiring a player to attack and destroy such stations.

They'd have to be rare, and awarded only to top ranking pilots, because the Vonari wouldn't be able to rebuild them all that quickly, but it might also have a dramatic impact on other missions in the war zone - without a base, the Vonari couldn't launch many (or any) attacks in the vicinity.

It could be worth considering - Vonarion was a fascinating system to explore, but every major construct was Alliance military. For such a technologically advanced civilisation, there hom system was startlingly empty. Although maybe, as I'm starting to theorise, the Vonari aren't from Vonarion but have come from Andromeda and are seeking to take over a new galaxy. It would explain all the symbols on the artefact...

Exim · Post by **Exim** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:13 am

Supposely Vonaria is a foot hold for Vonarians into our galaxy... their real home system is unknown... but then a battle front would have more or less a base right? and a mass build up of military machines and personnel...

I really think this game is capable of much much more... if this game doesnt have multiplayer... single player would have a player bored very quickly after all current objectives have been done... exploring unknown space offers little to no reward... so most players wouldnt buy into that... but that is just me... I cant speak for everyone... just my completely honest opinion and that I would like to keep my loyalty to this game... thus I ask the question if there are more I can expect from this game than what it currently offers... even if it is in an addon package you can pay extra for...

I am in no way saying this game is not good or not good enough... this game is awesome and very very good... but it just lacks that little extra... it can possibly attract more players to play too and hopefully that will bring a bigger online population... because there are only a very short period of time where there are people online... other times its no different to playing single player... when I was still very active with freelancer... our clan server constantly had players on it... but I do realise that it is a much bigger game... but I see evochron having that portential tho...

verbosity · Post by **verbosity** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:26 am

Originally posted by Exim
Supposely Vonaria is a foot hold for Vonarians into our galaxy... their real home system is unknown... but then a battle front would have more or less a base right? and a mass build up of military machines and personnel...

The vonari are totally alien, and operate in a way that makes no sense. I believe that we are experiencing their 'initial assault', and that the vonari could iniate similar 'war zones' across Evochron - while not 'much of a threat' in each zone, the sheer overwhelming force could overrun the whole quadrent.

... thus I ask the question if there are more I can expect from this game than what it currently offers... even if it is in an addon package you can pay extra for....

Well personally I have big plans for the dynamic server, some of these would have been release by now ( except I've been lazy, and my kiddies now have the flu, ), but I expect it to be out of beta in the next week or so ( if testing goes well), and there will be lots of new features then

our clan server constantly had players on it... but I do realise that it is a much bigger game... but I see evochron having that portential tho...

True it does have that potential, and I've seen how good it can be, sure I've not been online much, and I'll doubt that I'll be able to put the time in that I used to, but it takes pilots like myself( in the past I used to be on daily and usually for several hours at a time for well over a year), and Eclipse and im sure a few others - these pilots are the seed of what will grow into a great MP community, but it takes time and effort and dedicated players.

I've done my time on this score, and I still intend to put as much as I can into making this games MP scene great!

[Edited on 4-17-2009 by verbosity]

tha_rami · Post by **tha_rami** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:10 pm

Personally, I've always seen the Vonari system as a spearhead location for their assaults. I'd love to move into more hostile territories in the future, but indeed, Vonari battlestations would be cool. Actually, anything really big and bad would rock.

[Edited on 17-4-2009 by tha_rami]

verbosity · Post by **verbosity** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:16 pm

Originally posted by tha_rami
but indeed, Vonari battlestations would be cool. Actually, anything really big and bad would rock.

yup

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:15 pm

Originally posted by Star King
This is just a suggestion.
I think once you enter the warzone all combatants should be hostile!
The Navy should destroy all who enter the warzone for trespassing and other unspeakable offenses!

Just ask Eclipse to be your enemy in the Warzones!LOL:P:P:P

[Edited on 4-17-2009 by Maarschalk]

Exim · Post by **Exim** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:36 pm

Originally posted by MaarschalkJust ask Eclipse to be your enemy in the Warzones!LOL:P:P:P

[Edited on 4-17-2009 by Maarschalk]

I did ask for something possible right?... I think I did... LOL!

And I asked for something big and bad... sure Eclipse is one bad boy... but he is still only an evoch-c...

:P:P

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:55 pm

Bigger swarms of reds would be awesome and scary. Imagine instant action in the warzones. Squads or Clans would be must to survive!
Imagine having a rough day and coming home to this game and feeling better after destroying hundreds of vonari in a single sitting!!!!!!! hahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahaha!!!!!!:P

cheops · Post by **cheops** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:11 pm

You guys have a point but at least one of the War Zones must be 'softer' or the newbies wont stand a chance or even getting on the promotion ladder.

If you look at it from their point of view, who is going to spend vast ammounts of time trying to complete impossible contracts. You have to remember that there are a lot of times when 'old hands' aren't available or doing something else to help them out.

We want a bigger community, so we must have a 'safer' zone for the new guys to learn in.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:18 pm

Originally posted by cheops
You guys have a point but at least one of the War Zones must be 'softer' or the newbies wont stand a chance or even getting on the promotion ladder.

If you look at it from their point of view, who is going to spend vast ammounts of time trying to complete impossible contracts. You have to remember that there are a lot of times when 'old hands' aren't available or doing something else to help them out.

We want a bigger community, so we must have a 'safer' zone for the new guys to learn in.

I totally agree with Cheops here! Maybe make Sierra the though guy to handle, and my restaurant will bloom with more alien meat on the menu!LOL:P:P:P

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:22 pm

Dear Maarshlack,

Eclipse, Ben, Exim, Scott and I combat train all the time. I do notice that you never participate?
Is it from FEAR or are you a cheerleader? hmmm?:P

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:02 pm

Originally posted by Star King
Dear Maarshlack,

Eclipse, Ben, Exim, Scott and I combat train all the time. I do notice that you never participate?
Is it from FEAR or are you a cheerleader? hmmm?:P

Do I hear a challenge?

As stated before, I'm an independant Free Lancer and Fulcrum Torpedo dealer and own a Restaurant franchise in the Sierra warzone to supply food for the fighters against all
enemy alien forces! With my busy life and schedule I have to schedule my own practice time! And I frequently fight in the Warzones with great success! I was only severely provoked once by another human after accidently knocking him out of a Stations docking bay trying to dock myself at an inertial speed of 4k! He ended up at his last Saved location after the provocation!LOL:P:P:P

I will not engage any Human or Alien suporting the fight against Vonari, unless severely provoked and if such person is working with and or for the Vonari Like Terasin, and Maybe the Romulans and Maybe Clan [BA](Although [BA] claims not to be involved with the Vonari, I'm not sure I can thrust their maturing juvenile judgement in this matter).
If asked however to join for a PvP session I would gladly join time permitting!;)
LOL:P:P:P

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:14 pm

Dear Maarshlack,

You are always welcome to join us in combat training snd as far as your restaurant goes. Your vonari burger isn't that good.
As far as a challenge, I am always up for that due to the great pleasure I get of participating in explosions that rival the 4Th of July.
So please come into the fight den of fun. The pleasure win or lose is all mine!!!!!!!:)

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:03 am

Originally posted by Star King
Dear Maarshlack,

You are always welcome to join us in combat training snd as far as your restaurant goes. Your vonari burger isn't that good.
As far as a challenge, I am always up for that due to the great pleasure I get of participating in explosions that rival the 4Th of July.
So please come into the fight den of fun. The pleasure win or lose is all mine!!!!!!!:)

Dear Rats Gnik,

Thanks for the invitation, I'll keep this in mind next time I'm in the area!. As far as the burgers go, yes I know, it is hard to get good chefs in a war zone, they are always on reserve duty and almost never return alive, so they never get the proper training in the art of preparing a good Vonari burger, it takes years of practice and Vonari meat is very difficult to prepare especially the meat that comes from warzones contaminated with the Vonarion Flu and exposed to all kinds of space radiaton debrie weapons fire and schrapnell!LOL:P:P:P
And as far as the explosions go to rival the 4th of july, some well calculated and fulcrum torpedos filled AI controlled ships with jump coordinates set to the exact center of some suns of uninhabitated systems will easily 1000,000,000,000,000 fold out rival any 4th of july with supernovas which will be visible all over the Evochron Systems!LOL:P:P:P

So I will gladly accept the invitation and Lose or Lose, the pleasure sure will be all yours!LOL:P:P:P

[Edited on 4-19-2009 by Maarschalk]