Clan FF

[Hagan]

The fact that [FF] and [M] actually fought eachother disproves the rubbery conspiracy theory of that chicken.

I admit I had an [M] profile. Many of us did, but that does not mean we were in their clan, nor that it was founded by us. I also have an [LL] profile called [LL] Explosus, but I was never part of the clan either.

I actually never used that [M] profile, and I don't think anyone of [FF] did. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Splosives is right and correct here if he is referring to the arranged
team deathmatch duel between [M] and [FF].
It does seem strange however that [M] could only find one pilot out of all their ranks to
fight that battle.
I am suspecting that maybe the Rubbery conspiracy may have some truth to it.

[Lazarus]

It does seem strange however that [M] could only find one pilot out of all their ranks to
fight that battle.
I am suspecting that maybe the Rubbery conspiracy may have some truth to it.

Rubber's imagination holds no credibility. The facts are against such claims.

If he knows so much about these subsidiary clans and FF, why can't he point out just one recruit that came from such a subsidiary?

You would assume someone with so much information could point out just one.


Even I could tell you where every recruit came from after me, and I have been gone doing gov't accounting and banking during the year on standby-active



Playing with other friends when we want to is not a shameful thing. We probably have profiles in [X] and [V] as well.

[Rubber Chicken]

1.) The fact that [FF] and [M] actually fought eachother disproves the rubbery conspiracy theory of that chicken.

2.) I admit I had an [M] profile. Many of us did, but that does not mean we were in their clan, nor that it was founded by us. I also have an [LL] profile called [LL] Explosus, but I was never part of the clan either.

3.) I actually never used that [M] profile, and I don't think anyone of [FF] did. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Ok I guess I can't resist....

1.) Are you calling me a liar?

2.) The [FF]/[LL] inter-changeability of tags while in the North or South of the quadrant, pretty much shows how at least those two clans were essentially one. To say it never happened or that smaller clans made for purpose of feeding/serving the larger unit were never created is highly improbable considering this.

*On a side note: While [FF] and [LL] maintained their separate command structures, it was equivalent to when Rome became an East and West Empire. (Two Capitols, two Emperors, but essentially one empire).

3.) I've looked over the member list of [M] - Besides [M]r. Fancypants who is not on the list, I see [M] Odus. Both pilots are [FF] and both I have seen flying as [M] for the short time it was the clan to try.

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4). I still fail to see why this is such a big issue anyway. I said it because it's true, but the OTHER 90% of the post I made has valid discussable points as well.

Why so defensive over this 10%, [FF]?

Probably nobody would have noticed if you just let it slide by....

[Rubber Chicken]

Oh BTW Lazarus, I don't have a list of every alias from every clan and who they became when they moved to other clans.

And YES now I see you ARE calling ma a liar.


Also while playing as other tags and perhaps being in other clans is not a problem, using that to ensure there will never be an organized resistance large enough or strong enough to affect the [FF] territories is a bit shady.

You may have [X] profiles, but with [X] having no real command structure, you can't really gain anything, but to attack clans [FF] doesn't want to engage openly and get [X] blamed.
Not that [X] minds, but I've made my point.


[Edited on 5-17-2013 by Rubber Chicken]

[Edited on 5-17-2013 by Rubber Chicken]

[Lazarus]

It's kind of relevant because if someone tells you one thing that is willfully not true, that puts into question other things.

[Rubber Chicken]

Further edited my prior post.

And Lazarus that brings us back to the point of [FF]'s own plausible deniability.

[Edited on 5-17-2013 by Rubber Chicken]

[Lazarus]

Oh BTW Lazarus, I don't have a list of every alias from every clan and who they became when they moved to other clans.

And YES now I see you ARE calling ma a liar.


Also while playing as other tags and perhaps being in other clans is not a problem, using that to ensure there will never be an organized resistance large enough or strong enough to affect the [FF] territories is a bit shady.

You may have [X] profiles, but with [X] having no real command structure, you can't really gain anything, but to attack clans [FF] doesn't want to engage openly and get [X] blamed.
Not that [X] minds, but I've made my point.


[Edited on 5-17-2013 by Rubber Chicken]

[Edited on 5-17-2013 by Rubber Chicken]

We are using other clans to our benefit in malice? That is just another claim that is not true and holds no credibility.

I don't think someone acting as a reasonable person when they make hurtful accusations that they know it is their imagination.

[Rubber Chicken]

We are using other clans to our benefit in malice? That is just another claim that is not true and holds no credibility.

I don't think someone acting as a reasonable person when they make hurtful accusations that they know it is their imagination.

Well with Splosives admitting to having an [M] profile, [M] Odus actually being on the roster, and having personally witnessed [M] Odus and [M]r. Fancypants (not on roster) in-game at the time.... AND....

Seeing how those three players I can confirm were flying on behalf of [FF] during the 'Ruckus in Rucker' instead of maybe even making a half-hearted attempt to make it an even fight...
(It was a 6v1 gauntlet you know...)

Coupled with.... [FF]'s refusal to attempt a reconciliation with [SW] Busch after botching the opening stages of an [FF]/[SW] war.... Then....

Basically running down [DR] Hagan the same way Busch was treated, except this time blatantly and openly stating [DR] was in the crosshairs with no apology, right from the start........

I'd say the potential for malice and manipulating lesser clans is one of [FF]'s finer qualities.

[49rTbird]

ATTN Please: Lets get back to Playing the game and PLEASE don't escalate this subject to where it has to be moderated. This forum is more for positive feedback on game play. Sorry for the intrusion on your Thread [FF]. Thank you all in advance.

[Rubber Chicken]

Rgr That.

[-splosives-]

You're just overcomplicating things and making up conspiracy theories and claiming they are true.
It's just like the first time you resigned from [LL] because you thought there were some conspiracies that turned out to be false after all.

We were never in clan [M]. All [M] profiles made by [FF] members weren't intended to be actual members of that clan.

And I will go on about this because I will not have people making false claims about my clan.

The rest of your little post there might have value, and that's why I didn't comment on that.

[Edited on 5-17-2013 by -splosives-]

[Lazarus]

I'd say the potential for malice and manipulating lesser clans is one of [FF]'s finer qualities.

I just think you are acting as very unreasonable person.

You can go on any mountain top that you choose and speak your mind, but you choose to come to our thread and make such flaming type claims that you know is untrue and have no basis.

[Rubber Chicken]

Tbird said to be off of this, so I am.

On a different matter however, I do not appreciate what you are implying about me in your post Splosives.

Don't get personal. That's all I'm saying.

Out.

[Lazarus]

All you have brought forth thus far is perhaps some FF members have profiles in [M].

You go from that to FF is taking recruits from [M] and some master plot to blow up the Evoverse.




We are allowed to have friends. Those friends are allowed to ask us to play the game with them. There is only one person that would object.

[Austin]

Wow... to think all of this came about from just mentioning FF's lack of recent in game activity... O.o

[HawkEye11]

These awards are presented to the following FF members for their action in the Haroda's Horde Campaign. Although outnumbered the Freedom Fighter's SG Task Force has produced a FF victory. FF pilots were able to deal a devastating amount of damage onto the OPFOR's strike force and while suffering very few, almost no casualties of it's own. Mostly calm voices on the radio chatter, also excellent team work and force cohesion as a single unit. Excellent work Freedom Fighters.
I personally laughed aloud with great relish as I plunged headlong into the thickest envelopment of the enemies as I could. I could not help but to forgo self preservation. I was hungry. Hungry as the starved wolf and the sight of an enemy swarm buzzing about had whipped me into a frenzy. I charged the reds; leaping from one to the next, ripping each apart. Thrashing each enough so that even if I can't have it the pack will. Smoldering wreckage; dizzying chaos; brutality. It was a good day. I could go on, but I'm straying from the subject.
Congratulations! Here are your official awards.

[FF] Fleet Admiral Splosives:
-Clan Defense
Haroda's Horde Campaign Ribbon

[FF] Rear Admiral Cargo:
-Clan Defense
Haroda's Horde Campaign Ribbon

[FF] Captain Lazarus:
-Clan Defense
Haroda's Horde Campaign Ribbon

[FF] Commander Flash:
-Clan Defense
Haroda's Horde Campaign Ribbon

[FF] Commander Mecingo:
Space Force Commendation Medal
-Clan Defense
Haroda's Horde Campaign Ribbon

Edit: New! Avatars for the Admiralty.
FF members at rank Commodore or higher are entitled to a avatar for the FF squadron roster to be made by HawkEye. They may choose the science fiction character of their choice. In addition to looking cool, these avatars may also detail your awards/decorations and status as an officer. (Check the Squadron's roster on the 1st post of this thread to view them.)
I will produce avatars for lower ranking members as well if they contact me and request one. Members of any rank may receive an avatar without asking for one, depending upon how bored I am! So let me know what you want!
~HawkEye


[Edited on 6-19-2013 by HawkEye11]

[Rubber Chicken]

Lol! That was so 3 months ago! :P:P

[Lazarus]

Love the avatars. Good stuff.

[HawkEye11]

Lol! That was so 3 months ago! :P:P

Lol! Actually that was two months ago! Of course unofficial congratulations and general kudos have been distributed among FF members many times already; I was simply waiting for the Trolls to disperse, as they are more numerous than ever, and they tend to bite after I post on our thread. Apparently I did not wait long enough. And while were on the subject of that's so last month! ::

Although I simply ignored your public libeling of FF; I see now that my cohorts did the right thing by addressing your petty insults to our integrity. I was willing to ignore you until you went away. After all the FF acronym does not stand for "Forum Fighter". I personally didn't see reason in validating what you have to say with a response; We are most professional, we don't need whatever advantage you insist we have, whatever that may be, and frankly I have a hard time understanding just what that is.

You claim we commit ourselves to winning the game through manipulation. Bah. "Manipulation and malice" are the hallmarks of a Troll; this is not our way. You have been quite fast and loose on your "facts" sir, and your intent of "justice" does not seem sincere. There should be no need for us to explain ourselves, not to you. Our strength is derived from our faith in each other, not anything else. These insults are difficult to take, especially from a person who has no idea of our capacity, of our integrity, and obviously not of who we are or what our character is. Furthermore, these issues would have been best addressed and solved in the context of a U2U or email, anything else is obviously not intended to solve any problems, but instead instill drama.

So now that I have your attention RC, I ask a favor of you. If you have anything else to say that isn't helping us out or taking us on, please post it in another thread or U2U someone. Stop trolling this thread. If you want to start a thread named [FF] is a bunch of liars, I won't complain. Though I do admit you are more canny than others who actually go as far to troll us on TeamSpeak as well as the forums: I can tell that you are going to continue this unless checked. I have taken the time to write this lengthy post in an attempt to "nip it in the bud". I extend this request to other trolleys as well. Don't post here unless you have actual business. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

~HawkEye

[Rubber Chicken]

A). No insult was ever written by me (unlike at least one thinly masked jibe at my mental state by one of your members, and your just now calling me and others a troll).

B). All things I stated were *actions* performed by [FF] and witnessed by many veterans (not just the one you would most likely associate with me). So much for integrity....

C). I would have gladly continued the last discussion about how your own thread reveals all the proof that's needed, but the moderator shut down the conversation.

D). The 'awards' post you made was another thinly masked attempt to call out another player (or players). (Way to go you got me Playa!)

E) Perhaps now that I've returned to your favorite server, you're a bit upset I haven't crawled off and died like you wished I had!

Anyway, since the admin. may be by shortly, to shut this down, I'll be off now. Have fun getting your final word.

Toodles!

[HawkEye11]

A). No insult was ever written by me (unlike at least one thinly masked jibe at my mental state by one of your members, and your just now calling me and others a troll).

B). All things I stated were *actions* performed by [FF] and witnessed by many veterans (not just the one you would most likely associate with me). So much for integrity....

C). I would have gladly continued the last discussion about how your own thread reveals all the proof that's needed, but the moderator shut down the conversation.

D). The 'awards' post you made was another thinly masked attempt to call out another player (or players). (Way to go you got me Playa!)

E) Perhaps now that I've returned to your favorite server, you're a bit upset I haven't crawled off and died like you wished I had!

Anyway, since the admin. may be by shortly, to shut this down, I'll be off now. Have fun getting your final word.

Toodles!

My only wish is for you to leave my people in peace good sir. I promise we have never once plotted against the Rubber Chicken. FF does not wish the RC ill will. Also kudos for the FF pilots was only that. I promise on a stack of bibles. They are good men and women and they deserve better treatment than I can provide, so I do my best to shower them in love. We have prepared this gift basket as a token of our good will. *Hands basket
We just wish to have our lands (forum thread) left in peace. If ever again you believe their is another FF conspiracy please contact us FF members and we will discuss it with you. If your intent is to publicly denounce us...well then sir you are in the right country! I am only asking as a friend to stop doing it here in this thread. I personally would not do the same to you. Thanks!
Please don't take this so personally, I wish you only the very best so as long as it ain't messin around in our business capice? Thanks RC also I just want to say that I do care about you man, sorry for being so harsh. I don't want you to craw off and die.
Peace

[Marvin]

Clean it up, please ... starting with Hawkeye's post 148.

[Rubber Chicken]

I'll be honest, I feel very little love for [FF], but I'm willing to at least not swim in water under the bridge anymore.

Détente seems an acceptable solution.

[Lazarus]

Hopefully people can do something constructive with their time, as the only thing I see is wasteful anger.

Hawkeye's awards have never changed and have always been in jest or roleplay. Back to the positive, and away with the negative.

Words never hurt anyone in here, and the only true danger I have seen to an FF pilot outside of a forum was [V]Zex.

[Marvin]

Words never hurt anyone in here ....

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