Capital Ships

MiaZ · Post by **MiaZ** » Thu May 16, 2013 8:59 am

They give me a little trouble now too.
I know it exists but I haven't yet found a nice easy sweet spot to get into.
What I have noticed is it helps a lot to keep the navy battleship alive as it helps a lot to take down the enemy Cap's shields.
Also i try to keep as many green navy fighters alive as possible too.

INKED MICHAEL · Post by **INKED MICHAEL** » Thu May 16, 2013 1:05 pm

Thanks My Friend. I Take On the FIGHTERS around the NAVY CAP SHIP First But They Drop Fairly Quickly Leaving ONLY the VON CAP SHIP.

Why Does the NAVY CAP SHIP ALWAYS LOSE? lol.

-splosives- · Post by **-splosives-** » Thu May 16, 2013 2:00 pm

If the navy wins, there wouldn't be a reason for you to be in the battle, now would there?

Post by **Marvin** » Thu May 16, 2013 2:03 pm

The Navy doesn't need to win ... but a stalemate would be nice. (I think, though, that the winner between cap ships is random.)

-splosives- · Post by **-splosives-** » Thu May 16, 2013 2:19 pm

I have done several contracts where I just watched them fight from a distance. The Vonari always won.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Fri May 17, 2013 12:19 am

I have to agree with -Splosives- on this one I have been running a lot of combat missions in Arvoch Warzone and the Vonari always win if I do not interfere. And then I have to destroy all Vonari by myself including the Cap ship and I think I have a Good grasp on how to take down the Vonari Cap ship by myself in an Evoch-E. It would be probably easier in a higher class military ship. In an Evoch-E I can take out the Cap-ship by myself 3 out of 4 times using Excalibur missiles. If using fulcrum torpedos I always win!.....

:P

INKED MICHAEL · Post by **INKED MICHAEL** » Fri May 17, 2013 2:54 am

Any Tips for Me MAARS? I Don't want to Depend on FT's for VON CAP SHIPS. lol.

Though I Think I'll give Them a TRY! lol.

[Edited on 5-17-2013 by INKED MICHAEL]

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Fri May 17, 2013 5:50 am

From post: 162018, Topic: tid=9193, author=INKED MICHAEL wrote:
Any Tips for Me MAARS? I Don't want to Depend on FT's for VON CAP SHIPS. lol.

Though I Think I'll give Them a TRY! lol.

[Edited on 5-17-2013 by INKED MICHAEL]

Target the VON CAP SHIP Weapons System, Fly in a direction of heading 135 or 225 degrees at a speed near 1800 in inertia towards CAP SHIP. The Cap ship always travels at a heading of 0 degrees when you jump to a way point of a combat mission. Setting your heading before jumping to 135 or 225 degrees makes your approach angle to the Cap Ship to its 10\\11 o'clock or 2\\3 o'clock. Release Counter Measures and shoot down any incoming missiles and when you are in target hitting range 800-600 switch to IDS mode and keep targeting the Weapons System while trying to maintain your weapons system lock in the same spot. You need to get as close as you can to that center spot of the Weapons System of the Cap ship and maintain a steady position in front of that spot. You have to switch back to inertia when you are as close as possible to adjust your inertia momentum to keep your position steady and watch the VON CAP SHIPS Shield very carefully. you have to keep it red in the location you are attacking meaning you have to some times switch to lasers only to get the shield down first and then fire your particle cannons to take the Weapons system down. Once the Weapons System reads 0% the Von Cap ship can not do any more damage to you and you can keep firing all your weapons till the Cap ship goes Kaboom!

It takes a lot of practice before you become skilled at it.
You have to balance your shields and weapons energy very carefully. Once you close to the spot missiles can no longer hit you so you do not have to worry about counter measures any more, but you can get hit very hard by particle and laser weapons.
This is easier done in a Chimera, because of the extra armour compared to an Evoch-E......

[Edited on 5-17-2013 by Maarschalk]

INKED MICHAEL · Post by **INKED MICHAEL** » Fri May 17, 2013 2:04 pm

OK, FT's IT IS! LMAO

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Fri May 17, 2013 2:18 pm

LOL......

:P

-splosives- · Post by **-splosives-** » Fri May 17, 2013 3:20 pm

I usually use beam only until all shields are down, that way you'll have enough energy left for a lot of particles when they actually matter. I use particles to shoot down incoming missiles too.

INKED MICHAEL · Post by **INKED MICHAEL** » Fri May 17, 2013 10:41 pm

Going to Swap out My AVENGER for a CHIM and try Your Way MAARS My Friend. lol.

THEN FT's AWAY!!!! LMAO

Post by **Marvin** » Sat May 18, 2013 2:37 pm

From post: 162040, Topic: tid=9193, author=-splosives- wrote:I usually use beam only until all shields are down....

Low class or high class beam weapon?

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sat May 18, 2013 3:48 pm

From post: 162088, Topic: tid=9193, author=Marvin wrote:
From post: 162040, Topic: tid=9193, author=-splosives- wrote:I usually use beam only until all shields are down....
Low class or high class beam weapon?

High class!.......

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sat May 18, 2013 3:51 pm

From post: 162074, Topic: tid=9193, author=INKED MICHAEL wrote:Going to Swap out My AVENGER for a CHIM and try Your Way MAARS My Friend. lol.

THEN FT's AWAY!!!! LMAO

Instead of FTs or the Excalibur, you can also try 4 to 8 exodus missiles or Rage missiles still cheaper than FTs, but you have to keep loading up on them for every Multiple Waypoint mission involving Cap ships at each waypoint!......

:P

INKED MICHAEL · Post by **INKED MICHAEL** » Sat May 18, 2013 4:25 pm

I hit a VON-I with a LEECH and It Didn't Seem to Phase It so I'm Doubting the Effectiveness of ALL "SPEACALTY" Missile, like the RAGE, on ANY VON SHIPS, let Alone a VON CAP SHIP.

This Seems to be a GUNS/BEAMS Situation.

MiaZ · Post by **MiaZ** » Sat May 18, 2013 5:19 pm

RAGE missiles do work but the effect does'nt last very long and you need to make sure they are not intercepted by the CAP ships anti missile beams.

Things are really much easier if you can keep the navy CAP alive.
What I do is either go straight for the Von cap while the navy CAP is still alive or target the fighters and protect the navy first, then finish off the Von CAP last.
Seems to work for me but I do use a lot of Exodus and Starfire missiles.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sat May 18, 2013 6:55 pm

Thanks for the tips Maars! I took out seven Vonari before proceeding to destroy my first capital ship since the expansion! One their weapons are down, piece of cake

-splosives- · Post by **-splosives-** » Sat May 18, 2013 7:07 pm

From post: 162088, Topic: tid=9193, author=Marvin wrote:
From post: 162040, Topic: tid=9193, author=-splosives- wrote:I usually use beam only until all shields are down....
Low class or high class beam weapon?

Definitely high class.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed May 22, 2013 4:26 am

I'm getting the Hang of it now taking out Vonari Cap Ships in my Evoch-E that is. And even many times keeping my hull at 100% Using Excalibur missiles I'm now able to take down 4 out of 5 Cap ships. One of the five tries I made a stupid mistake by not watching my speed carefully so I slid in inertia past the critical attack spot!.....

:P

[Edited on 5-22-2013 by Maarschalk]

Post by **Marvin** » Wed May 22, 2013 5:59 am

From post: 162242, Topic: tid=9193, author=Maarschalk wrote:I slid in inertia past the critical attack spot!.....:P

The cursed space bar strikes again!

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed May 22, 2013 11:50 pm

From post: 162243, Topic: tid=9193, author=Marvin wrote:
From post: 162242, Topic: tid=9193, author=Maarschalk wrote:I slid in inertia past the critical attack spot!.....:P
The cursed space bar strikes again!

The cursed Indent button on my X52 throttle stick, in my case relatively speaking!....

:P