Any one using 3D Glasses in EM?

[MiaZ]

After playing with this 3D setting for awhile I noticed it seems to work pretty well as long as I keep the HUD turned off.
Flying through an asteroid field with no HUD was cool.

Targeting with lots of ships with HUD turned on did;nt work so well though : (

[Maarschalk]

Here you go



Oh, when you are at the pilot selection screen everything is drawing all different depths but are on top of each other so it causes lots border violations, there is really no way to point out how on a screenshot, because it is every element. ie the 2 ships are on one level, the buttons for character selection along with the create delete load and the other button in the line are on another level and the menu that they all go within are on another level again, but because they are all crossing it breaks the 3D illusion. But that doesn't effect gameplay at all.

I found a lot of issues with interfaces within stations as well, everything is in 3D but at different depths and overlapping so there are more border violations. I will post some screens of them later today.

To get rid of the double or ghosting you have to put the stereoscopic 3d depth to the lowest setting of 1%. Any higher depth setting will give you double lines(ghosting) in the areas you mention regardless of what kind of 3d glasses or system you are using!...

If the interface and HUD are set up correctly for 3D I would be able to play at any depth I choose and have it be correct. You literally have no difference between 2D and 3D at that setting, so you might as well turn it off because you're still gonna get the performance hit.

I guess for playing the game on a 3D capable TV is different than on a LED Flat Screen Monitor.

I get very good 3D vision depth and not 2D at 1% depth setting and no performance hit with the passive anaglyph glasses!....

[andysonofbob]

I have found EM offers fantastic 3D. Nearly perfect 3D.

http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/andysono ... a7e00011a/

People with red and cyan glasses should be able to see the 3D as well as 3D Vision users.

As you can see everything looks fab. The only issue I have, I mention in the other thread. I game at 100% depth usually and it looks better at 100%.

You need to adjust convergence until the compasses (top and bottom) appear to float just in front of their bay, like a hologram.

To adjust convergence you need to unlock them by going to the vidia stereoscopic panel and setting keyboard shortcuts!

[MiaZ]

Andysonofbob , you have it looking a lot better in that screen shot than I have managed to get so far.

I will try adjust convergence like you said and maybe increase depth too : )

[Kolreth]

I didn't try playing with the convergence! Didn't even occur to me.

[andysonofbob]

Increase depth to 100%. Then reduce convergence until the compasses appear to float in front of their panels, like holograms.

@MiaZ you will need to go to the nVidia control panel --> set keyboard shortcuts and unlock advanced.

I recon this should be a 3D Vision Ready rated game! Without question, Excellent.

[Maarschalk]

I have found EM offers fantastic 3D. Nearly perfect 3D.

http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/andysono ... a7e00011a/

People with red and cyan glasses should be able to see the 3D as well as 3D Vision users.

As you can see everything looks fab. The only issue I have, I mention in the other thread. I game at 100% depth usually and it looks better at 100%.

You need to adjust convergence until the compasses (top and bottom) appear to float just in front of their bay, like a hologram.

To adjust convergence you need to unlock them by going to the vidia stereoscopic panel and setting keyboard shortcuts!

I still see a lot of Ghosting red and green with the Anaglyph glasses in this picture and even with converging I can not get rid of the ghosting!. Maybe my eyes are to sensitive to red and green!...LOL

Anyway after playing around with the convergence settings I could not get the original 3D Depth settings and default convergence at 1% depth setting. I could not even get the game back at normal 2D settings even with disabling 3D!

Than I got a message that an updated driver was available for NVidia, So did a clean install and now the game is back to 2D and I can not get the game back to work in 3D with the settings I liked!....all other 3D applications still work in 3D except for Evochron Mercenary......

[andysonofbob]

@Maarschalk

Dude. That sounded like a mission.

I think the ghosting is something you will need to live with using anaglyph 3D. The glasses are good at blocking their specific shade of cyan or magenta. Any change of shade from their specific color and the image bleeds through.

Edit: This bleedthrough/ghosting will be increasingly noticeable with increased depth.

When I first got EM I thought it didn't even work in 3D so shelved it. Turned out I needed to set the graphics to full screen (though WM seems to work now) with 2 x AA ( though greater AA seems to work too). Have you tried that. The settings might have changed I'm thinking.

[Edited on 4-3-2013 by andysonofbob]

[Maarschalk]

@Maarschalk

Dude. That sounded like a mission.

I think the ghosting is something you will need to live with using anaglyph 3D. The glasses are good at blocking their specific shade of cyan or magenta. Any change of shade from their specific color and the image bleeds through.

Edit: This bleedthrough/ghosting will be increasingly noticeable with increased depth.

When I first got EM I thought it didn't even work in 3D so shelved it. Turned out I needed to set the graphics to full screen (though WM seems to work now) with 2 x AA ( though greater AA seems to work too). Have you tried that. The settings might have changed I'm thinking.

[Edited on 4-3-2013 by andysonofbob]

Must be the Full Screen setting, as I remember now that when I changed to FS, 3D suddenly started to work for all Screen Settings....LOL... I will try the FS again and see if that solves the problem!...

[Maarschalk]

@Maarschalk

Dude. That sounded like a mission.

I think the ghosting is something you will need to live with using anaglyph 3D. The glasses are good at blocking their specific shade of cyan or magenta. Any change of shade from their specific color and the image bleeds through.

Edit: This bleedthrough/ghosting will be increasingly noticeable with increased depth.

When I first got EM I thought it didn't even work in 3D so shelved it. Turned out I needed to set the graphics to full screen (though WM seems to work now) with 2 x AA ( though greater AA seems to work too). Have you tried that. The settings might have changed I'm thinking.

[Edited on 4-3-2013 by andysonofbob]

Must be the Full Screen setting, as I remember now that when I changed to FS, 3D suddenly started to work for all Screen Settings....LOL... I will try the FS again and see if that solves the problem!...

OK, I got it back to work. It is not the Full Screen alone, it is a combination of things.

1. "Adjust Image settings with Preview" needs to be set in NVidia Control Panel to "Use the Advance 3D Image settings"

2. The "Ctrl+T" Keyboard short cut for show/hide Stereoscopic 3D must be toggled on

3. 3D vision must be enabled

4. Full Screen must be selected

Once you have it working than these settings do not matter any more except for the "Ctrl+T" Keyboard Short Cut!.....

[Maarschalk]

Also, I have been able to almost completely remove the Red and Green Ghosting in 3D Vision at Maximum 100% Depth and at frame rates of 115-130!

How?, just by wearing my cheap paper Anaglyph glasses over my Anaglyph clip on Glasses, so just by wearing double anaglyph glasses almost completely removes the ghosting after a while you do not even notice it any more!.......:P

For the Frame Rate, once you have the 3D Vision working in "Full Screen Locked mode", switch to "(WM) Optimized No V-sync)".
You will have to do the converging over every time you enter in this mode but you get no loss in performance!......