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Hello to everyone,
I'm new to Evochron and the forum (nice to meet you), so I'm trying to figure out how the game works, so sorry for my silly questions. :)
There is one thing that bother me, what generates the energy?
When you deploy your energy using the weapons, what energy do you use?
Is it linked with the fuel? (Fuel=Energy?)
Which upgrades give you more energy? (not the converters, I mean for example, are the frames, or the fuel tanks, or the engines which provide you with more energy?)
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Hi!

While I'm afraid to answer your question directly, I'd like to offer a tip.

If you bind your beam and particle weapons to different keys, and use beam to take out shields and cannon for hull, you'll find it much easier to manage energy.
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Your sub-light engines and Fulcrum jump drive use fuel. Your ship is equipped with a variety of energy generators for weapons and shields. You can upgrade many of these to give you extra protection. You can also vary the energy output between shields and weapons so that you can fight for longer or survive longer until you can run away.

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From post: 156164, Topic: tid=10440, author=zex wrote:Hi!

While I'm afraid to answer your question directly, I'd like to offer a tip.

If you bind your beam and particle weapons to different keys, and use beam to take out shields and cannon for hull, you'll find it much easier to manage energy.
I believe the beams and cannon are bound to f5 and f6 by default but I could be off by a key or two.:)
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Funny thing is that you can't really generate energy out of nothing.
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:cool: Nothing is hard to locate.
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Yep, T-Bird's got it. F-5 for particle cannon, F-6 for beam cannon - game/kybd default hot key assignments. (* - can be scaled/reassigned.) The energy which powers all of your ships' systems is drawn from the fuel you load into your "tanks". With each increase in frame/hull set, comes a corresponding increase in your ships' ability/facility to manage power needs (shield core and power core upgrades). The add-ons like shield batteries and cannon relays assist in this management function as well. Also, setting/adjusting/monitoring your shield-weapons energy bias ( " [ " - left bracket/shields. " ] " - right bracket/weapons) goes a long way in keeping the power going to where it needs best. So far, the "community" consensus is that increasing/upgrading engines are mostly power versus speed considerstions. Which also equates with/to the larger, "heavier" frame choices. Much more armor on those bad boys! Lots of mass and cubeage to move around. Each wing-set and engine-set also add their intrinsic thrust packages to the energy/power mix.
Take DaveK's suggestion - D/L the Techy Guide, aka Merc's Manual, and the Hints and Tips Guide. Lots of useful stuff in both!

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From post: 156177, Topic: tid=10440, author=-splosives- wrote:Funny thing is that you can't really generate energy out of nothing.
Actually according to quantum mechanics you can - it's called vacuum energy and is demonstrated by an experiment that shows the Casimir Effect.

It's also behind Steve Hawkins' idea that blackholes emit energy and eventually shrink and disappear.

It sounds more like magic to me though :D

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:cool: Maxwell was correct the first time. The Ether is real. ;)
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Hi UnaManu, welcome to the game and forum!.....Hope to see you out there some time!.....;):cool:

The debate where Energy comes from can be a relatively long and tedious argument. If Energy seems to come out of nowhere we can not say it comes out of nothing.
We just do not know! It just can come out of another dimension from something in that other dimension!.....Science alone will never be able to explain everything!.....;):P:cool:
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From post: 156270, Topic: tid=10440, author=Marvin wrote::cool: Maxwell was correct the first time. The Ether is real. ;)

Definitely - I used to have a big bottle of it (diethyl ether) in the chemistry lab at school.

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From post: 156274, Topic: tid=10440, author=Maarschalk wrote:Hi UnaManu, welcome to the game and forum!.....Hope to see you out there some time!.....;):cool:

The debate where Energy comes from can be a relatively long and tedious argument. If Energy seems to come out of nowhere we can not say it comes out of nothing.
We just do not know! It just can come out of another dimension from something in that other dimension!.....Science alone will never be able to explain everything!.....;):P:cool:
Just got a bit shorter, my friend. Experimental (as opposed to theoretical) evidence for vacuum energy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... imir-effec

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Vacuum is not nothing. There's a lack of mass, but there's still what we call "spacetime" and "dark matter" and all that jazz.
What I mean is that the word "energy generator" should be replaced by "energy converter" regardless of where the energy comes from.
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From post: 156337, Topic: tid=10440, author=-splosives- wrote:Vacuum is not nothing. There's a lack of mass, but there's still what we call "spacetime" and "dark matter" and all that jazz.
What I mean is that the word "energy generator" should be replaced by "energy converter" regardless of where the energy comes from.
Actually, energy can come from nothing (a vacuum) in the form of paired particles as long as they recombine and within a very very short period of time. It's when you can capture one of the particles with a BH that allows the other to escape. The captured particle pairs with a particle of matter inside the BH and they pair disappear, reducing the BH's energy (=mass) and so it appears from the outside that the BH has emitted a particle and lost mass.

Stephen Hawkin's idea - not mine :D

Whatever it is, if it turns out that it really is, Dark Matter isn't vacuum and Dark Energy is a force screwing with gravity - it's not energy. A vacuum is full of quantum fluctuations on a scale that makes sub atomic particles look enoooormooous. It's from these fluctuations that pairs of particles can appear (and disappear), so that energy conservation isn't broken.

There's a tentative new suggestion that extensions to the theory can explain where the singularity for the Big Bang came from - side tracking the question of "if the universe started with a big bang, where did that come from?" :cool:

I just love this stuff (though as the man said - "if you think you understand this, you weren't listening properly!" and my frustration with having to die is that I won't find out how it all ends!! I'd love to travel through a jump gate!

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From post: 156341, Topic: tid=10440, author=DaveK wrote:
From post: 156337, Topic: tid=10440, author=-splosives- wrote:Vacuum is not nothing. There's a lack of mass, but there's still what we call "spacetime" and "dark matter" and all that jazz.
What I mean is that the word "energy generator" should be replaced by "energy converter" regardless of where the energy comes from.
Actually, energy can come from nothing (a vacuum) in the form of paired particles as long as they recombine and within a very very short period of time. It's when you can capture one of the particles with a BH that allows the other to escape. The captured particle pairs with a particle of matter inside the BH and they pair disappear, reducing the BH's energy (=mass) and so it appears from the outside that the BH has emitted a particle and lost mass.

Stephen Hawkin's idea - not mine :D

Whatever it is, if it turns out that it really is, Dark Matter isn't vacuum and Dark Energy is a force screwing with gravity - it's not energy. A vacuum is full of quantum fluctuations on a scale that makes sub atomic particles look enoooormooous. It's from these fluctuations that pairs of particles can appear (and disappear), so that energy conservation isn't broken.

There's a tentative new suggestion that extensions to the theory can explain where the singularity for the Big Bang came from - side tracking the question of "if the universe started with a big bang, where did that come from?" :cool:

I just love this stuff (though as the man said - "if you think you understand this, you weren't listening properly!" and my frustration with having to die is that I won't find out how it all ends!! I'd love to travel through a jump gate!

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I told you it is going to be a long tedious argument, even the articles you reffered to about the Casmir Effect are arguably. Like some are arguing that this effect is nothing more then the Van Der Waals forces!

Also you will find out how it all ends eventually since when you die it is not the end of your life but just the beginning of a new one!.....;):P:cool:
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From post: 156337, Topic: tid=10440, author=-splosives- wrote:What I mean is that the word "energy generator" should be replaced by "energy converter" regardless of where the energy comes from.
:cool: Yeah, I think Dave passed over that part. But, if you're going to get persnickety about it, "generator" is a word but "energy generator" is a phrase.
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lol, you got me there marvin.
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