Build Point is Obstructed

Cargo · Post by **Cargo** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:27 am

I'm in an uncharted system with no Starports for miles and I have a station in the same exact spot on the Ceti Alpha server. Today on Starport 6 I go to the same spot, it lets me build, does the whole countdown and then says Build Point Is Obstructed after the timer finishes.

zex · Post by **zex** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:37 am

This happens to me sometimes too - although I've never confirmed if it was server-specific like that. I've only seen it happen in sectors with a planet, but the build point never appeared to be obstructed.

(edit: oops, accidentally called a sector a system

)

[Edited on 1-5-2013 by zex]

Cargo · Post by **Cargo** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:52 am

Yeah, I left the server and came back and was able to build just fine.

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:58 am

I think Marvin had a similar problem somewhere else?...

Post by **Vice** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:57 pm

There are some pending changes to station building that haven't yet been fully implemented until the launch of the next update. Some intermittent issues like that may occur until both client and server side updates have been completed.

Post by **Marvin** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:04 pm

From post: 154495, Topic: tid=10325, author=Viper wrote:I think Marvin had a similar problem somewhere else?...

Yes, exactly. I figured it was due to the server not immediately updating the sector where I destroyed a station and then tried to build one of my own. After a number of attempts inside the sector but at different locations, I logged out. When I tried to come back later in the evening, G1 was off line. Yesterday, I did log on, flew back to the location in question (Riftgate sector) and successfully built a station.

zex · Post by **zex** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:23 pm

Getting this very often now, sometimes in completely empty sectors.

Post by **Vice** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:55 pm

And you will if the 'region' is full or above capacity. Check the new news console value for 'Local Trade Stations', if that number is above 50, then it's at capacity and stations will need to be destroyed before more building can continues in that region. Note, this value will be '0' until the server program has been updated to 2.188 by the server operator. Only servers running build 2.188 will provide this data to clients.

zex · Post by **zex** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:05 am

Hey Vice

This is actually out in the boondocks - with 0 local stations. Mind if I shoot you the profile?
Having the issue on both CAV and SP6, both of which I believe have been updated to latest server software..

Post by **Marvin** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:14 am

The station limit isn't co-located with star systems. It's aligned with a grid pattern which, quite often, extends into the boondocks.

Vonari translatorial · Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:36 pm

I thought this was rather funny.

Mecingo · Post by **Mecingo** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:07 pm

From post: 154551, Topic: tid=10325, author=Vice wrote: There are some pending changes to station building that haven't yet been fully implemented until the launch of the next update. Some intermittent issues like that may occur until both client and server side updates have been completed.

What width and height of a system by sectors? Just need to know in case someone hides stations out in deep space to where their harder to find.

[Edited on 1-7-2013 by Mecingo]

DreadMetis · Post by **DreadMetis** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:06 pm

Small report : yesterday, on Olympus Prime, it was a PITA to build just ONE trade station... You could get differents errors like the "before-you-build-obstructed", the "After-you-waited-obstructed", and even the new for me "Station-limit-'-sector" even if there was only 6 stations in the sectors, oh and the "Station-within-2-blocks" error too, even if no stations up, down, left, right... You got the message

...

I know IT IS an error bcause I tried the "quit the server/ get back and build immediatly" solution, and sometimes it worked, particularly when the server is quiet (no new connections, no spamming in the chat box (THERE ARE TOO MANY MESSAGES THERE NOW, I GOT REMANENCE ON MY SCREEN !).

Last but not least, I had some stations to destroy, I did, but after one jump back & forth to the location, the station was there again (in the sector where I've been told that there is no more place to build even if only 6 stations), but destroying stations didn('t solve the problem...!!

If there is anything I can try, tell me, I'll be back online later

[Edited on 7-1-2013 by DreadMetis]

Post by **Vice** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:21 pm

Where the local trade station count is 0 and there are stations nearby, that's a sign the server is still running an old version of the server program. When the value is accurately above 0, then the server is on the required build to support that listing system.

For information, here are the conditions which trigger the 'build point is obstructed' message:

- A default trade station is within 2 sectors of the location you are trying to build in.
- Distance to any other station type is less than 3000m.
- Distance to planet is less than (diameter/2)+3000m.
- Distance to moon is less than 40000m (from core).
- Distance to carrier is less than 3000m.
- Distance to jump gate is less than 5000m.
- Distance to asteroid cave is less than 10000m.

If a server is running the latest build (local station count is displayed) and building issues occur, please have the server operator e-mail me the universemulti file from the server program's install folder.

Post by **Marvin** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:42 pm

Von, if you don't mind, I'd appreciate it if you'd keep the following screenshot at its current location in Photobucket ...

... as reference for anyone wanting to know where to find the number of trade stations already built.

zex · Post by **zex** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:47 pm

We are also sending a copy to High Command - they don't seem to be paying you enough

-splosives- · Post by **-splosives-** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:11 pm

I got this bug everytime I try to rebuild a station in a sector where used to be a station that got destroyed, but I can rebuild a station in the sector next to it where no station has been.

zex · Post by **zex** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:28 pm

From what I can tell, it can happen anywhere at any time - I can't reliably force it to happen, nor can I reliably stop it from happening.

I can tell you that if you are building a lot of trade stations, you *will* see this happening.

-splosives- · Post by **-splosives-** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:18 pm

Yeah, it's annoying, especially because you keep blowing them up.

zex · Post by **zex** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:23 pm

Vice, I can report that blowing up stations is working great

Post by **Vice** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:27 pm

Vice, I can report that blowing up stations is working great

Lol, good!

As for the build point issue, I'll be developing a work-around/fix for that which should resolve it regardless of any server/client version mismatches. I hope to have the next update rolled out pretty quickly since it also includes some other fixes.

Kuros · Post by **Kuros** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:20 am

This is my first attempt to build a station but I'm receiving the build point is obstructed error. That stat "Local Trade Stations" does not even appear on my screen. I'm in the middle of no where trying to build a station near the unknown planet off Cerulean. Can someone help please?

[Edited on 7-12-2014 by Kuros]

SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:32 am

Make sure there is no trade stations in your sector
or any of the surrounding sectors in all directions.
Must be an empty sector between the trade stations.

If that is ok, try different positions in your sector
but stay within +\\- 50000 from the center in all 3 directions.

Hope this helps.

Kuros · Post by **Kuros** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:12 pm

Thank you for your help SeeJay. I gave up trying to place it where I wanted it. I jumped another sector over and placed it there. It makes no sense to me, provided the instruction in this thread and also ultimately where I was able to place it in the next sector as to why I wasn't able to place it where I wanted it originally and although I'm a bit taken back from my immersion by an illogically placed trade station, it's at least there and usable now, I have a new trade route. Thanks again

[Edited on 7-12-2014 by Kuros]

Major Grubert · Post by **Major Grubert** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:48 pm

space is not an empty quiet thing, its full of gravitational currents, radiations canals, and many many place are really not good for a station...

just think about it next time you got the message "damn gravitational currents !"