Idea for AOE Weapons

Scavenger4711 · Post by **Scavenger4711** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:20 am

Hey there!
In case you're wondering: No, I'm not refering to the FT-safety problem right now. ^^ But out of this discussion I started to think about AOE-weapons. I had the idea of a rather defensive/tactical weapon - something like an EMP-bomb.

I thought of it as a bomb that detonates after 3-5 seconds and damages weapon-subsystems. It would be a rather defensive weapon (as it would hinder your ability to fire weapons as well and) because it would give ships like transports or traders a chance to get out of a big fight.

I just think, that the mechanics, that the FT uses is just too awesome not to be expanded

What do you think?

[Edited on 25-12-2012 by Scavenger4711]

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:25 pm

We already have this weapon: Leech missile disables you for 15 seconds.

Rubber Chicken · Post by **Rubber Chicken** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:42 pm

An emp bomb that 'blankets' and area would be a hindrance. If one is activated by you or your foe, disabling you both then your foe's wingman can come in from out of range and destroy you. If you have your ship full of EMP devices, it will still only be a matter of time before your opponent(s) will accomplish their goal.

Post by **Marvin** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:07 pm

The shield array does pretty much the same thing.

Rubber Chicken · Post by **Rubber Chicken** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:21 pm

True, Marv.

Scavenger4711 · Post by **Scavenger4711** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:57 pm

From post: 153064, Topic: tid=10233, author=Star King wrote:We already have this weapon: Leech missile disables you for 15 seconds.

Yeah, but for the leech missile to actually work, it seems like you have to completely disable your opponent's shields first. Otherwise (that's at least my experience) it has no effect at all.

Scavenger4711 · Post by **Scavenger4711** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:19 pm

@Rubber Chicken
Okay, that would then depend on how large the AOE is. I thought of it as a weapon to give you a chance to charge up your energy and/or shield in order to jump or activate the stealth generator.

@Marv
Do you mean the shield recharger? It's rather useless if there are faster and more manuverable ships on your tail that can just keep on shooting at you, draining your energy and therefore not giving you a chance to jump out.
In case you mean the shield packs (secondary hardpoints), well, I haven't tried them out yet. But I guess they also could even the odds a bit.

Post by **Marvin** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:34 pm

Neither. I meant one of the deployables.

Scavenger4711 · Post by **Scavenger4711** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:39 pm

From post: 153133, Topic: tid=10233, author=Marvin wrote: Neither. I meant one of the deployables.

Oooohhh, right! That one also exists, I totally forgot

Yes that would definately work as well, although I don't like the deploy constructor because imo it's to "overpowered" or let's say to mighty. But that's another topic ^^

Dagran · Post by **Dagran** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:42 am

Nope, as long as the leech missile makes impact, then the effects set in.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:10 am

The leech missile is a good counter measure and so is the specific deployable!.....

:P

Scavenger4711 · Post by **Scavenger4711** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:20 am

From post: 153188, Topic: tid=10233, author=Dagran wrote:Nope, as long as the leech missile makes impact, then the effects set in.

What does the Leech missile do? Does it drain weapons energy?

Dagran · Post by **Dagran** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:24 am

From post: 153219, Topic: tid=10233, author=Scavenger4711 wrote:
From post: 153188, Topic: tid=10233, author=Dagran wrote:Nope, as long as the leech missile makes impact, then the effects set in.
What does the Leech missile do? Does it drain weapons energy?

It disables the ship's electronic systems so what you will see is just empty space while the HUD disappears momentarily leaving you vulnerable to attack. As for duration, see above posts.

[Edited on 12-26-2012 by Dagran]

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:34 am

I had an NPC hit me with one of those once, thought it was pretty cool. Use them myself as well, turns the AI into a nice sitting duck lol. Same with that other missile that disabled the engine.

Scavenger4711 · Post by **Scavenger4711** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:47 pm

Strange... I tired them once (4 missiles at 4 different targets) and they didn't seem to have any effect on them at all... perhaps I was just very unlucky and having a glitch or something ^^

I guess I'll give them a second try

Post by **Marvin** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:13 pm

They work best in PvP ... but you need to assume you got a hit and quickly charge in for the kill. Or you'll miss your chance. Down-time is short.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:38 pm

From post: 153236, Topic: tid=10233, author=Scavenger4711 wrote:Strange... I tired them once (4 missiles at 4 different targets) and they didn't seem to have any effect on them at all... perhaps I was just very unlucky and having a glitch or something ^^

I guess I'll give them a second try

Some are experts at missile impact avoidance so it looks sometimes as they do not work. But if you get a lucky hit at close range you have a good change of taking him out quickly!...