New Frames & Inventory Console Features

BÃ¦nlynn · Post by **BÃ¦nlynn** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:34 am

Would like to see a piece of gear specifically for explorers. A long-range scanner that can point the way to nearby stars, within say... 100-200 sectors depending on class. Would make finding uncharted systems a little easier.

Kyle_Gates · Post by **Kyle_Gates** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:25 am

From post: 129306, Topic: tid=8608, author=Maarschalk wrote:Like players have mentioned before this Game is created by one man. With that in mind I would add that more complicated and extensive Game play options, the playable balance can get easily disrupted as lot of players are discovering with all the mods out there.

1. Even the most current updated average Computer System will have some problems running all the best mods at the highest graphics settings.
2. The Game becomes more time consuming for one man to maintain and troubleshoot if problems arise!
3. The more complicated the Game the more you open up the possibilities of cheats and exploits that will make the game to easy or ruin the fun for others!

Yes, we all can always love and wish for more. Lets keep reality in mind though what ever relatively speaking that is!.......:P

PERFECT! Like I said. #1 Stunna.....make the game world feel a bit more "real". Shouldn't be beyond the game's or the makers capabilities. Differnt types of encounters with the ships/stations/planets that already exist. Ships already jump in and out of a sector. Why cant they possibly engage in spontaneous fighting/trading/struggling?

Letoras · Post by **Letoras** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:25 am

Piracy needs more pilots on each server, it wont have a nice result as it is i believe.
Only between clans there can be conflicts as long as they have miners and traders to protect or going for scheduled battle.

Raynor · Post by **Raynor** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:24 pm

Well well well, its me again (what a dweeb...)

I've experienced something a little annoying that i presume would be simple to fix. I was doing a mission for a system's navy, had to protect a ship. So i show up to the navpoint, start blasting the enemies. And then after a while two new ships show up. Navy.... Hostile. So those two idiots proceeded into attacking me while i'm hmmm....trying to defend one of their own. It seems to me either 1 - when you take on a mission for a faction, regardless of your standing with them, they should be friendly at least for the duration of that mission or 2 - You can't take missions from a faction you're not friendly with.

Also, Is it just me or when there are multiple friendlies fighting alongside, the enemies seem to almost 99% of the time always target me anyway and forget about everyone else? That's been my experience anyway, it makes me feel like the whole universe has it in for me.

And to answer Maarschalk, personally i'm just like, throwing ideas out there. I in no way think that Vice is sitting there taking notes on everything i'm writing and going "oh why didn't i think of that before! Thank you!" I know that realistically, any new thing can be hard to implement. Also these are my ideas, they're not necessarily good. But i have to think that somewhere among all the feedback he is picking on one or two things or if nothing else, that it is inspiring a few improvements (not my ideas, i mean everyone's).

As it is, the game is GREAT and if it never improved i'd still keep on loving it. But perfection is also in the details... and it is my belief the game is only a few not so major tweaks away from perfection.

[Edited on 2-7-2012 by Raynor]

Raynor · Post by **Raynor** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:34 pm

From post: 129049, Topic: tid=8608, author=Marvin wrote:
From post: 128904, Topic: tid=8608, author=Raynor wrote:I damaged a ship badly and then during the fight it went out of range. I continued fighting with the remaining ships, one of which was the bounty target. After killing them, the mission was still not over. I figured it was because i hadn't shot down one of the ships but since it had went off range, i could not find it again and so i was forced to fail the mission (i tried going back to the nav and that didn't work). I think bounty missions should ONLY require you to kill the target, the other ships should be optional. If nothing else anyway you should not fail the mission just because a ship escaped, as long as you killed the target.
Ships don't escape. They never leave the sector. Hunting down a retreating target and killing it is often the best part of the contract. If you haven't figured out a good search pattern, then buy a deploy construct and use the sensor array to find your prey.

Just now saw this. I DID suspect that maybe ships never disappeared based on a past experience when a ship had went off range for about half a minute and then reappeared but yeah, without the proper means of finding a target (i had no idea a deploy construct could do that, i have yet to buy one) that has been off range for several minutes, i might as well be looking for a needle in a haystack (maybe if i had had any idea where i was in the sector when it went off range, but i wasn't paying attention).

I still don't see why if a contract asks to kill one specific target we should have to kill his wingmen too... Yes, i can see the point that it would make bounty missions too easy but.... In this case then maybe ht emissions should specifically say that you need to kill the target AND his wingmen.

BvP · Post by **BvP** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:07 pm

A Naval quest framework (like the included quest) for combat pilots. Not just replacing the default quest, but a secondary quest framework just for military pilots.

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:10 pm

Good one. and to expand on that, a Rebel/Guild/Vonari/otherwise bad guy Quest. Just for those who like to be da baddy.

BvP · Post by **BvP** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:09 pm

From post: 129535, Topic: tid=8608, author=Viper wrote:Good one. and to expand on that, a Rebel/Guild/Vonari/otherwise bad guy Quest. Just for those who like to be da baddy.

A Pirate/Rogue quest could be good too.

[Edited on 2-7-2012 by BvP]

DukeLetoIII · Post by **DukeLetoIII** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:29 pm

Hmmm..

-- More weapon types
-- ability to add more weapon hardpoints of your choice
-- volume based inventory system instead of slots

Post by **Marvin** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:33 pm

You can create a customized quest ... put the whole thing in the war zones or out in Vonari space. Whatever tickles your fancy.

BvP · Post by **BvP** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:42 pm

From post: 129549, Topic: tid=8608, author=Marvin wrote: You can create a customized quest ... put the whole thing in the war zones or out in Vonari space. Whatever tickles your fancy.

I know, but I am actually asking for A Naval quest framework for combat pilots. Not just replacing the default quest, but a secondary quest framework just for military pilots.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:42 pm

From post: 129526, Topic: tid=8608, author=Raynor wrote:
I still don't see why if a contract asks to kill one specific target we should have to kill his wingmen too... Yes, i can see the point that it would make bounty missions too easy but.... In this case then maybe ht emissions should specifically say that you need to kill the target AND his wingmen.

When it is a destroy Ace mission it always states that you need to destroy all ships flying with him!....

Post by **Marvin** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:44 pm

How would that work? Civilian pilots can land or dock anywhere ... same as a military pilot.

BvP · Post by **BvP** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:22 pm

From post: 129554, Topic: tid=8608, author=Marvin wrote: How would that work? Civilian pilots can land or dock anywhere ... same as a military pilot.

When I create a combat pilot and fly to Sapphire I can not start the quest (or is there a way that I am not aware of) so the game does treat the pilots differently. It would work as a seperate quest framework for combat pilots (sorry if I did not make that explicit enough in my original suggestion).

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:29 pm

From post: 129560, Topic: tid=8608, author=BvP wrote:
From post: 129554, Topic: tid=8608, author=Marvin wrote: How would that work? Civilian pilots can land or dock anywhere ... same as a military pilot.
When I create a combat pilot and fly to Sapphire I can not start the quest (or is there a way that I am not aware of) so the game does treat the pilots differently. It would work as a seperate quest framework for combat pilots (sorry if I did not make that explicit enough in my original suggestion).

You can trade in your Military ship for a Civilian one and then start the Quest I believe! If you started as a Combat Pilot!...You need Cargo space to do the Quest and the Sarter Combat Pilot ship has no cargo bay!.....

BvP · Post by **BvP** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:37 pm

From post: 129562, Topic: tid=8608, author=Maarschalk wrote: You can trade in your Military ship for a Civilian one and then start the Quest I believe! If you started as a Combat Pilot!...You need Cargo space to do the Quest and the Sarter Combat Pilot ship has no cargo bay!.....

Thanks for the info (I still want a 2nd quest frameork though).

Post by **Marvin** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:10 am

Well, you can do that without involving Vice. Just script a quest targeted at military ships, start as a civvy pilot, then get a military ship to do the quest.

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:31 am

Well let me ask a couple of newbie questions too, lol.

- Can anyone tell me if it's doable without spending days on it?
- Can you create a quest that will let you start in a military ship?
- Is it possible to do a custom quest in a ship you already have, or do you need to start out with a fresh one?

sundalo · Post by **sundalo** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:57 am

Was pondering the thought of secondary device suppprt such as another joystick or peripheral, I say this because not everyone here uses a HOTAS setup and operate with a joystick with no throttle, or mouse keyboard. With a HOTAS setup, those issues are moot since those devices have software that can read extra supported devices as one. If you happen to mix and match devices then only one control device will be used while the other wonâ€˜t. With the addition of walkers in the expansion, it would open up some nice options.

[Edited on 2-8-2012 by sundalo]

[Edited on 2-8-2012 by sundalo]

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:42 pm

From post: 129602, Topic: tid=8608, author=Viper wrote:Well let me ask a couple of newbie questions too, lol.

- Can anyone tell me if it's doable without spending days on it?
- Can you create a quest that will let you start in a military ship?
- Is it possible to do a custom quest in a ship you already have, or do you need to start out with a fresh one?

1. -This is all relative. Depending on how many missions and how complicated you make it!
2. -Yes
3. -Yes, you can use your current ship.

[Edited on 2-8-2012 by Maarschalk]

Post by **Marvin** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:18 pm

The answer to number two is probably No. The easy way to make certain, one way or the other, is to start as a military pilot, check that you don't get the first quest message ... then switch over to a civilain ship and see if you do. When checking, it might be necessary to go into the News section to read the last quest message. If nothing shows, then it won't work.

BvP · Post by **BvP** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:39 pm

From post: 129574, Topic: tid=8608, author=Marvin wrote: Well, you can do that without involving Vice. Just script a quest targeted at military ships, start as a civvy pilot, then get a military ship to do the quest.

That's not really the same as what I was suggesting, but thanks for trying... A second quest system for combat pilots would be nice to have.

Post by **Marvin** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:49 pm

The "option" probably wouldn't be that hard to add ... but Vice might want a bit more commitment from somebody who would make use of it. And scripting a good quest takes time. First, you'd need a basic idea, then a two or three page treatment (outline), then a detailed script in written form ... then, finally, the script done in quest format. (Btw, I used the quest format for the 1st International Road Rally in Space and spent a couple weeks just testing the thing to make sure it worked as advertised. Which it did .. for everyone except Denny. Which only goes to show: the best laid plans of mice and quest-scripters often go tango uniform.)

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:47 pm

some sort of MP name registry. I don't like being impersonated.

deMangler · Post by **deMangler** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:12 am

Some really good ideas in this thread. Some (lots actually) of them, I am like Nooooooo, don't do that! Others, I am like - cooool.

Anyway, apart from a zillion things I think would be great, there is just really on thing that spoils my immersion, and would make all the difference for me, it is this.

Realistically scaled planetary systems, planets and moons, with gravitational effects and orbits. Without this for me it is a good game but is no space sim.

Ship drives, warping, tech, economy, politics, NPC's, missions... all that stuff is fantasy and can work how anyone likes without (necessarily) spoiling immersion, but every time I interact with one of those tiny non-orbiting planets my immersion is shattered. Automatically.
Well, there is what I would love to see in a future update.

Still - this game is the best game in this genre so far, so I am not complaining, just adding my ideas to the feedback.