The Real Tatooine

[Mecingo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8wgJK9S45I

This is rather late, and i know i upload a lot on this part on the forum. But there have been a lot of recent "unique" planets discovered in a rather short amount of time this month.

Maybe a planet with life would see something like this if they had two suns



By theory if we continue at the "doubling" rate in which every year we seem to become more advance then the year before, we might have the ability to travel to other systems. I find this a little hard to believe when I first heard it. But I would love to live to be a colonist.


[Edited on 9-29-2011 by Mecingo]

[Marvin]

Right now, our ability to journey into space is just about zero. Double that and you get ... well, you still get zero.

[Ykses]

500 years ago, the idea of ​​crossing the ocean in a sailing boat seemed incredible!...
Today, we send men into space at a speed of 25,000 mph !

[Viper]

Not too long ago the 'experts' thought we could never fly, flying was for birds, not for men.
- Then the Wright Brothers built their airplane and took to the skies, proving them wrong.

Shortly after those same 'experts' stated that we would never be able to fly faster than the speed of sound, we would surely blow up or vaporize on the spot.
- Then we broke the sound barrier in 1947 and proved them wrong again.

Then they (and even Einstein) said we would never be able to fly faster than the speed of light.
- Recently a burst of Neutrino's was shot from CERN to a laboratory in Italy. After repeated and careful calculations the conclusion was that these particles had traveled faster than the speed of light.
Give it some time and we will prove ourselves wrong once again.

Take into account that (just a few examples):

• the U2 'Spy Plane' had already been in active service for several decades before its existence was confirmed.
• the SR-71 BlackBird, the first airplane that could cruise at more than 3 times the speed of sound, idem dito.
• the first time we launched ourselves into space with the Space Shuttle was in 1981, and we just retired it earlier this year. That's 30 years of using the same old primitive technology of breaking escape velocity by burning big huge tanks of fuel... While at the same time research into far more advanced propulsion technologies (which is too much to go into right now) has been going on and proven successful for almost the same amount of time.
• there are companies like Lockheed Skunkworks and many other 'black' companies like it, who have been secretly researching technologies which we only know from Star Trek and the likes for many decades.

My point being:

1. Humanity in all his arrogance, always think they know how things work, until they are proven wrong. This has happened countless times in history. So often actually, that one may wonder why we still take ourselves seriously each time we repeat ourself.
2. Don't believe everything they feed you through the news. We only get to know what they want us to know.
3. Keep an open mind and never say never. Everything is possible. Imagine yourself a thousand years in the future laughing, thinking about how naive humanity was a thousand years ago.

~ Viper.

[Edited on 9-29-2011 by Viper]

[Maarschalk]

Good one Viper, I agree with everything you said. I knew one day this would come that they would prove that particles can move faster then the speed of light...:P

[Maarschalk]

Cool Mecingo, thanks for sharing.....

[SDWeimer]

correct me if I am wrong but tachyons go faster than light, and they are particles of matter correct, that is if they exist.

[Maarschalk]

I think that is theoretically correct. But they have not proven their existance, while neutrinos have been proven to exists although no one knows what they excactly look like.....:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

[Mecingo]

The main thing is people believe if it goes fast enough it will turn into energy. I don't believe this because it more of a theory rather than a fact. The real problem is were testing our speed in a atmosphere rather than in space, which I believe due to it's nothingness, you could travel rather fast with no burning. You can only go so fast before you would start to feel the limits of atmosphere.

[Marvin]

I'm pretty sure Einstein took friction into account when theorizing on relative velocities. In fact, he did very little (if any) actual testing himself. He usually left the problem of proving his theories up to other scientists.

[Maarschalk]

After reading the different articles on the subject of neutrinos moving faster than the speed of light
at the CERN accelerator in Switzerland and detection Lab in Italy. Some people have come up with plausible solutions that could explain the time difference and might not be neccesarily that the neutrinos moved faster than the speed of light.

One commentator mentioned that there was a Supernova observed in 1987 and that the neutrinos of that Supernova reached Earth at the same time as the photons and that if neutrinos moved faster than the speed of light they would have been detected 15 months before the photons arived.
But than again 15 months before the Supernova is visible by the photons reaching us there is no way scientist would be looking for neutrinos of a Supernova they had no Idea that was going to happen! So it could very well be that they traveled faster and reached us 15 months before the observance of the Supernova!.

Another mentioned that since the neutrinos moved through dense matter of the Earth for about 450 miles and that the dense matter somehow bends space like a parabole or inverse lense making the distance shorter for the neutrinos to travel hence the time difference. The only way to verify is to do more experiments with neutrinos moving through the vacuum of space and measure their travel time compared to that of the speed of light.....:P

[Viper]

Another mentioned that since the neutrinos moved through dense matter of the Earth for about 450 miles and that the dense matter somehow bends space like a parabole or inverse lense making the distance shorter for the neutrinos to travel hence the time difference. The only way to verify is to do more experiments with neutrinos moving through the vacuum of space and measure their travel time compared to that of the speed of light.....:P

That's an interesting statement. Reminds me of the Alcubierre drive theory (basically the Warp Drive from Star Trek), although its workings rely more on compressing and expanding space-time rather than on bending it between two points.

Nonetheless a striking statement to make. Bending space-time has been a much discussed theory as an alternative to propulsion-based technologies for relative FTL space travel. It might just be the way to navigate the vastness of space in the future. The way I see it, burning fuel will never produce speeds great enough to really get anywhere in space. Mind you, even if we were to travel relatively faster than the speed of light, it would still take thousands of years to reach even the other side of our galaxy. So I think we should think outside the box, which would make the theory of bending space-time in order to travel from one point in space to another a very viable theory, and a logical successor to our rather primitive technology of burning fuel, which we have been using for too long now and which has (curiously!) not really evolved in the many decades it has been in use.

What strikes me most about all this though is the fact that a scientific discovery of this magnitude is mentioned in the mainstream media in the first place (although the attention given to it is far from what one would expect really). You would think that they would want to keep it a secret for the time being, as they have done with so many other discoveries in the past (probably to gain a technological advantage over certain other nations).

Which in turn brings me back to what I mentioned earlier, the fact that some things are only released to the public after they have been picked apart sufficiently and used extensively for several decades... Which, if that is the case, means that the technology of bending space-time was mastered many years ago and has been in use for just as long without us knowing about it.

Arr, I love speculating lol.


~ Viper.

[Edited on 10-2-2011 by Viper]

[Viper]

More or less related to the subject of this thread, for those interested in these kind of docu's, here's an interesting video on Youtube.
Maybe we don't even need to look that far to find life on other places.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK-2N4L5 ... re=related

(With a bit of searching you can find this same docu separated in several parts which give a bit more quality)


~ Viper.

[Edited on 10-2-2011 by Viper]

[MMaggio]

Don't believe a word of it.

[Mecingo]

These people that say the government is covering up aliens make me crack up, the only thing their covering up is advance killing machines.

[Maarschalk]

These people that say the government is covering up aliens make me crack up, the only thing their covering up is advance killing machines.

I see them all the time those covered up aliens, but mostly during halloween...LOL...:P:P:P:P:P