Combat is haaaard (stuck on cap ship img mission, missiles hurt)

mipearson · Post by **mipearson** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:50 pm

Yeah, this is one of those "help I'm bad at combat wwwaaaah" threads.

I'm stuck on the IMG capital ship escort mission.

What mainly seems to get me is missiles, not gunfire. I hear the missile tone, wait for it to get close, start spamming CMs .. and then bam, down to 50% hull. Another missile, I asplode.

How do I effectively work with CMs? I generally fly at IDSx2, use AB liberally (esp when I've got a fighter directly shooting at me)

I'm using a flightstick, too, (logitech x3d pro) which may harm my combat skill a bit but I find using it key to my immersion.

I've tried flying contract missions in Olympus to boost my overall ability, but I'm finding the difficulty really skewed - they're either really easy or I blow up in the first thirty seconds.

SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:56 pm

Hi and welcome.

Try flying in Inertia mode and stafe the ship back and forth.
That makes your heat signature much smaller.

Also join MP and lots of pilots will offer to help you out.

49rTbird · Post by **49rTbird** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:31 pm

Hello mipearson, Welcome to the forum and the Sim. Have fun and hope to see you in "Multi-Player" sometime.

Post by **Marvin** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:36 pm

From post: 111320, Topic: tid=7808, author=mipearson wrote:I'm stuck on the IMG capital ship escort mission.

If that's really the case, then you're attacking the wrong ship.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:31 pm

The problem is that you fly in IDS mode + afterburner, that way the CM's do nothing since the missiles are heatseekers.

So your engine heat + afterburner produce far more heat then your CM's.

Fly in inertia, strafe left or right and when the missile is close enough just pop 1 CM to spoof it.

In this video you can see me fight 12 foes and if you watch closely you see me spoof several missiles with just 1 CM per missile.
You can also shoot missiles with cannon fire, this is also easier when you fight in inertia mode since you always face your foes instead of them being glued to your tail.

And yes, if you can pop online on Remula One and we will gladly help you with contracts and teach you how to fight.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:38 am

There is a way to make escort missions very easy without dogfighting or fire a single
cannon or laser......but is only available to wealthy and experienced pilots knowing how to handle nuclear devices.....

:P:P:P:P:P

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:47 am

Won't you also blow up the ship you have to escort with an FT?

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:49 am

There is something you can do to prevent that from happening.....I did not wanted to make this a Spoiler Alert....

:P:P:P:P:P

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:01 am

I think I know, too much trouble and too expensive, not to mention boring.

I rather chase em and shoot em.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:05 am

Yes the hard way is much more fun, but after a while you try different things just for fun to see if it is possible just like trying to land on Earth which is easy ones you know how......

:P

Post by **DaveK** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:53 am

From post: 111339, Topic: tid=7808, author=Avenger wrote:I think I know, too much trouble and too expensive, not to mention boring.
I rather chase em and shoot em.

Even though I'm still at the start of the combat learning curve, I agree. One thing though - in the heat of battle don't forget to defend the capital ship! The first couple of times that I managed to survive I ended up so far away from it that a couple of the hostiles took it out!

Mecingo · Post by **Mecingo** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:13 am

I made a combat tutorial video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAD5J5wEb3o

I have modified this method, but not got around to making a new tutorial video.

[Edited on 7-26-2011 by Mecingo]

Nigel_Strange · Post by **Nigel_Strange** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:26 am

Actually, DaveK, one of my tactics is to lead all the foes away from the capital ship. I keep them far enough away that they lose sight of the capital ship. Then, I jump back to the ship and there is nobody there! I just coast along with the ship until the timer runs out.

That said, I don't usually take these kinds of missions because I like offense better than defense.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:51 am

From post: 111386, Topic: tid=7808, author=Nigel_Strange wrote:Actually, DaveK, one of my tactics is to lead all the foes away from the capital ship. I keep them far enough away that they lose sight of the capital ship. Then, I jump back to the ship and there is nobody there! I just coast along with the ship until the timer runs out.

That said, I don't usually take these kinds of missions because I like offense better than defense.

That won't work, 50% of the attacking ships completely ignore you and attack the ship you have to escort.
You can only lead away the ships that are going after you, but the rest will simply forget about you and shoot the capital ship into a cloud of space dust.

Post by **DaveK** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:41 pm

My experience is the same as Avenger's, though I've only done this quest in MP (though all on my lonesome!). A couple of ships stay behind and hammer the capital ship

. I'm working up to the next quest contract

- the warning about it is a lot tougher has made my legs go all wobbly!

Perhaps it's a bit different in SP - I'll have to give it a try and see if the hostiles are more interested in blowing me up rather than the capital ship!

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:37 am

Hostile is called hostile for a reason and that is: "They blow things up!".....

:P