Where does hydrogen come from?

Nigel_Strange · Post by **Nigel_Strange** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:51 pm

I have wondered where you get hydrogen in the game. I mean, you can convert something into fuel if you have a fuel converter, but if you lack a fuel converter, you get nothing from nebulae or stars.

I imagine this is where hydrogen would come from.

verbosity · Post by **verbosity** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:51 pm

Originally posted by Nigel_Strange
I have wondered where you get hydrogen in the game. I mean, you can convert something into fuel if you have a fuel converter, but if you lack a fuel converter, you get nothing from nebulae or stars.

I imagine this is where hydrogen would come from.

aqctually I think the fuel converter uses high energy photons to make fuel ( think energon...)

Ravenfeeder · Post by **Ravenfeeder** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:46 pm

What I've always wondered about is where fridge magnets get their everlasting power source from?

Do they somehow resonate with the earths magnetic field, or, do they use harmonics of the universal power system as a power medium?

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:39 pm

Even fridge magnets will loose their power some time as part of natural decay wich might seem a long time but certainly not everlasting and compared to eternity it is just a small fraction of time....It is just a question of how the electrons are aligned in the fridge magnets in normal iron electrons move freely around the protons and in a magnet they are aligned or you can say locked in or trapped on one side of the metal.....to give the metal a positive and a negative pole...hence you have a magnet.....

[Edited on 3-24-2010 by Maarschalk]

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:42 pm

Originally posted by Nigel_Strange
I have wondered where you get hydrogen in the game. I mean, you can convert something into fuel if you have a fuel converter, but if you lack a fuel converter, you get nothing from nebulae or stars.

I imagine this is where hydrogen would come from.

Yes, like Verbosity says, in Evochron Legends the fuel converter converts high energy photons and not hydrogen...

GORF · Post by **GORF** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:13 am

Originally posted by Nigel_Strange
I have wondered where you get hydrogen in the game. I mean, you can convert something into fuel if you have a fuel converter, but if you lack a fuel converter, you get nothing from nebulae or stars.

I imagine this is where hydrogen would come from.

We believe that out of the energy field that resulted from the Big Bang, matter condensed from the energy field, in accordance with Einstein's "e=mc^2" formula which states that mass and energy are equivalent and convertible. About 98% of the mass became hydrogen, and perhaps 2% helium and a bare trace of lithium and other elements.

Most of the mass in the universe, we believe, is still hydrogen. When hydrogen-rich gas clouds condense to form stars, the nuclear fusion converts hydrogen into helium. During the last stages of a star's life, the helium fuses into carbon and oxygen and other heavier elements, and during the moment of a star's death in a supernova explosion, heavier elements such as iron are fused together into very heavy elements such as gold, lead, uranium, and others.

This is an important point; EVERY ATOM HEAVIER THAN CARBON HAS ALREADY BEEN INVOLVED IN A SUPERNOVA EXPLOSION. The iron atoms in your blood and the copper atoms in your pennies were created in a supernova explosion over 5 billion years ago.

Post by **Marvin** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:31 am

Originally posted by GORF

Most of the mass in the universe, we believe, is still hydrogen.

I hear there's a really big patch of it directly in the path of Sol's system ... about three years away. That should brighten things up!

Nigel_Strange · Post by **Nigel_Strange** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:56 am

Maybe I should be more direct.

Where can you mine hydrogen in Evochron?

You've got a mining beam.

You've got an abundant resource.

Why can you not mine hydrogen? You can buy it, so someone is mining it. Why not me?

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:42 am

Maybe its in the planet atmospheres.

Scavenger4711 · Post by **Scavenger4711** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:33 pm

UrsprÃ¼nglich verfasst von Jeremy
Maybe its in the planet atmospheres.

Nope. There you get Oxygen.

I tried to get it at suns, from the water of planets and out of nebulaes where you have eletrcial interferences. But unfortunately I didn't get anything there

But I don't know where to look elsewhere....

Sry, I couldn't help you

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:24 pm

I do not think Hydrogen is one of the things you can mine in the game. It is just part of the commodities to trade like food.....but you can mine water thou, that is close enough....LOL....

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:19 pm

Hydrogen cannot be mined. It has to be processed or manufactured if you prefer. It is extracted in a difficult & complex process.
You can't mine anti-matter either, but you can buy it.
Both the the production of Hydrogen & Anti-matter are highly regulated and can only be provided by the systems with high technology.
I hope that answers your question.

warsign · Post by **warsign** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:57 am

Nice answer MMaggio...

Sometime you need to buy

[Edited on 3-26-2010 by warsign]

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:13 pm

Hydrogen is easy to make you can do it at home from water, we learned that in Highschool in Chemistry lab....and it should be easy to mine from natural resources although dangerous. But MMagio your talking about in Evochron Legends and there it can not be mined it is just a limitation of the game...

Nigel_Strange · Post by **Nigel_Strange** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:45 pm

Yeah, I was going to let it go, but Maarshalk is right. You just need a cup of water, a couple of test tubes, a battery, and some metal plates with wires hooked onto them.

Now, if you want deuterium or tritium, you're looking at a little extra work.

Post by **Marvin** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:37 pm

And fire insurance. Don't forget you'll need fire insurance.

verbosity · Post by **verbosity** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:03 pm

Originally posted by Nigel_Strange
Yeah, I was going to let it go, but Maarshalk is right. You just need a cup of water, a couple of test tubes, a battery, and some metal plates with wires hooked onto them.

Now, if you want deuterium or tritium, you're looking at a little extra work.

actually deuterium exists at around 154 ppm in water, so
you can easily filter it out of water, the process is pretty simple, but would take you some time. tritium is much rarer and is usually manufactured from lithium in nuclear reactors, this little extra work gives it a net worth of around $30,000,000 USD per Kilo

Nigel_Strange · Post by **Nigel_Strange** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:55 pm

tritium is much rarer and is usually manufactured from lithium in nuclear reactors, this little extra work gives it a net worth of around $30,000,000 USD per Kilo

Yes, but the glowing effect is so cool that it makes an awesome base for a Pan Galactic Gargleblaster.

OF course, nobody in their right mind would ever drink one.

Or their left mind.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:13 am

Originally posted by Marvin
And fire insurance. Don't forget you'll need fire insurance.

LOL.....and life insurance, and health insurance if you decided to try and taste tritium just for the heck of it...good luck trying to get coverage thou....

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