[EL 1.0228] Keyboard/Mouse Buttons Do Nothing In Game (Windows 10 Update KB3140743 breaking input functionality) *FIXED*

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[EL 1.0228] Keyboard/Mouse Buttons Do Nothing In Game (Windows 10 Update KB3140743 breaking input functionality) *FIXED*

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I'm using a Razer DeathAdder mouse and a BlackWidow Ultimate Stealth 2014 and have no issues.

can you attach a copy of a hijack this log so we can see what's running? Any overlay's like discord, overwolf? Something that maybe hooking the input?
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[EL 1.0228] Keyboard/Mouse Buttons Do Nothing In Game (Windows 10 Update KB3140743 breaking input functionality) *FIXED*

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From post: 186444, Topic: tid=12523, author=MiaZ wrote:Is this on Win10 with Xbox controller?
If yes this might be to do with that problem due to a recent Windows 10 update KB3140743.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... ed72892dcc
The link here is talking about GTA but I believe it has broken the keyboard/mouse when using xbox controller for lots of games.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GrandTheftAuto ... _keyboard/

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I hadn't heard of that forced update breaking functionality in Windows 10. That sounds like a possibility. So another step to try would be to remove that update to see if the behavior changes.
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[EL 1.0228] Keyboard/Mouse Buttons Do Nothing In Game (Windows 10 Update KB3140743 breaking input functionality) *FIXED*

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From post: 186444, Topic: tid=12523, author=MiaZ wrote:Is this on Win10 with Xbox controller?
If yes this might be to do with that problem due to a recent Windows 10 update KB3140743.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... ed72892dcc
The link here is talking about GTA but I believe it has broken the keyboard/mouse when using xbox controller for lots of games.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GrandTheftAuto ... _keyboard/

just a thought
Very nice catch MiaZ.

First, I tried unplugging the controller and running the game. Keyboard and Mouse both worked normally, but I couldn't plug the controller back in after the game was running and have it work.

Then I uninstalled Windows Update KB3140743. I was able to start the game with everything plugged in and everything worked normally.

Going to reinstall synapse again just to see if it plays nice.

EDIT: No problems after reinstalling synapse.
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Seems that solves the problem in other games as well from what I've been reading around the net. So it appears a forced Windows 10 update broke basic input functionality. I'll mark this fixed for now and hopefully, Microsoft will fix what they broke in another update soon.
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From post: 186463, Topic: tid=12523, author=Vice wrote:Seems that solves the problem in other games as well from what I've been reading around the net. So it appears a forced Windows 10 update broke basic input functionality. I'll mark this fixed for now and hopefully, Microsoft will fix what they broke in another update soon.
Hah! They will... likely breaking something else in the process...

Thanks for all the help in hunting this down.
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Indeed. Forced updates are not a cool Win 10 feature.
It'd be better to notify, even if it were security related.

Glad you got it sorted. for now.
Won't Win 10 just re-install this update?

I think there's some youtube tutorials on disabling these wonderful with no user intervention....Win 10 features.

Spybot-Anitbeacon will go through your registry every reboot and force certain privacy things off, even after updating....I have no idea if it will disable auto-updates or not though.
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From post: 186470, Topic: tid=12523, author=matchbox2022 wrote:Indeed. Forced updates are not a cool Win 10 feature.
It'd be better to notify, even if it were security related.

Glad you got it sorted. for now.
Won't Win 10 just re-install this update?

I think there's some youtube tutorials on disabling these wonderful with no user intervention....Win 10 features.

Spybot-Anitbeacon will go through your registry every reboot and force certain privacy things off, even after updating....I have no idea if it will disable auto-updates or not though.
I never understood what the issue was. It's actually quite easy to change it to notify when there are update instead of auto-installing.

It was one of the first things I changed from the default setup. If I remember, it only installs the updates if you use the restart button from in the update window. The only difference I've noticed from the Windows 7 update scheme the way I have it set up, is it no longer tells me what is in each set of updates, which is kind of annoying. But other than that it appears to function the same way.
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Oh good so you can just keep away from that update like the plague :P

I dont run Win 10, just going off of what Ive seen and others experiences.
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From post: 186496, Topic: tid=12523, author=matchbox2022 wrote:Oh good so you can just keep away from that update like the plague :P

I dont run Win 10, just going off of what Ive seen and others experiences.
Yep! It keeps the notification there, but it will only install it if I use the specific restart button within the notification/settings screen.

The default I think was to automatically install the updates at like 3am. But even then, since I shut my computer down each night, they would never install!
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Quick public service announcement:

Security Update for Windows 10 KB3140768 was released a little after the update that caused this issue (I got it on 3/10). KB3140768 causes the same issue as KB3140743 with the xbox one controller preventing the keyboard and mouse from working with some games (this one included).

This issue started cropping up again, and I was looking in my installed updates to make sure they didn't stealth install the broken update again. They didn't, but this new update was there and after a quick internet search appears to be causing the same issues... I'll uninstall in and try just to confirm.

EDIT: Yep, KB3140768 causes the same issue as KB3140743!

[Edited on 3-13-2016 by Dhuran]
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sneaky sneaky MS.
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