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Hi guys

after flying to the Andromeda wormhole and saved my game just out side the gravity field ive tryed to travel to Andromeda via the blue orb in centre of worm hole about easy 200 times each time my ship gos bang, tryed with both my ships both have lvl 10 shields....

wtf lol ??

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:o What Andromeda wormhole?
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the wormhole to get in to Andromeda ive tryed to get in to it without blowing up so many times its unreal, in both my ships my Evoch and my starmaster both have lvl 10 shields and a shield booster, ive tryed jumping to it, flying at the waypoint at 7300 speed i just cant do it lol noob i know....
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There are wormholes and there are black holes. The wormholes are the blue orbs and can be entered safely. The big whirlpool things are black holes and not all of them have wormholes at the center. Ergo, if there's no wormhole, then your destination is always going to be Valhalla.
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im at the whirlpool/blackhole in vonair or how its spelt trying to get in to the Andromeda system but soon as i get close to the blue orb in the centre of the blackhole its 1800 gravity and i die... i tryed everything to get in
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:cool: You can enter a wormhole from any angle. But if you attempt to enter a wormhole which is inside a black hole after exiting hyperspace, you need to be facing toward the wormhole ... 'cause you don't have time to maneuver. So, before attemting to transit a black hole, practice by right-clicking on and jumping toward a jumpgate. Get to where, when you exit hyperspace, the jumpgate is directly in front of you. Then determine how far in front of you the jumpgate is (when you exit hyperspace). Then adjust that distance by manually adding or subtracting from the destination in-sector coordinates.

;) The idea is to exit hyperspace as close to the jumpgate as possible. Then use the same technique for transiting a black hole.
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ok mate ty ill give it a try.

i was doin kind of the same thing earlier ild sit just off centre to the black hole at 1750 gravity then jump ild hit the worm hole at 9k speed the warp tunnle would go blue then change for the bigger jump but even that ild blow up hitting the gate at 9k speed lol

i never had this trouble leaveing sol!! hehe

but ty for ya info ill try now
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ok so now i have a waypoint that puts the nose of my ship inside the blue wormhole after i comeout of hyperspace, but by the time i get to about 4k speed in the warp jump i blow up... so i come out of the jump slowing down i hit the wormhole start speeding up again cause im pulled in to the blue orb and die.. i get 40% of the jump done then my ship blows up, i have lvl 10 shield shield boost turned all the way up flying a starmaster...

and the centre of the blackhole is dead centre in frount of me!

maby ill leave this system it cant be that nice for all this hassle surely ? lol
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Try hitting your afterburner when you exit the jump to the BlackHole to get you in there faster.
Also keep adjusting your exit point manually so you exit the jump spot on the BH.
Maybe changing your energy to boost your shields to max will help as well.

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ive killed my self over 200 times now i cant see what im doing wrong. soon as i exit the first jump to the wormhole im instanly on the other jump to Andromeda i cant even use my afterburned cause i come out of hyperspace inside the blue orb lol then like i said i get 40% of the final jump done then BOOM.. impossiable imo lol and i have my shield booster on +5 shields, lvl 10 shield. ship is a starmaster...

even try flying manually in my navy ship i hit the wormhole at neally 7500 speed and like before the wormhole jump starts seconds later insta dead...

ill just google pics of the system lol 4 hours of my life gone! :):):):):)
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Post by morbosfist »

That sounds about right. It's a very trial-and-error process.

You don't need your afterburners to do it, just a precision jump. You'll take a lot of damage, but you'll survive. Just keep adjusting with small increments and eventually you'll nail a distance that works.
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The key to succeed is to get the fastest repairing system combined with a excellent system engineer.
I noticed that I couldn't jump with a military ship as there is no engineer and a low repairing system.
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You can jump through it with any ship, and you'll always end up with about 23% hull if you do it right. I think you still need to try harder though. Try until your ship is entirely inside the wormhole when you jump out. I won't spoil the exact answer for you though, I only do that for clan members :P.
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In Mercenary shields don't matter any more and I doubt if any repair system or person will have time to do very much. Before I learned the knack I tried afterburner but tended to die before they could kick in

Hint: (select the text to read it if you want to see the hint)

you come out of a jump travelling very very quickly if you arrange to come out of the jump just in front of the WH in the blackhole, you will enter it before your Hull damage "totals" you

Hint 2:

you exit a jump in the same heading as you entered it regardless of the overall direction the jump is in (ie if you are jumping North but facing West, you jump North but come out travelling West. So leave the jump near the WH but travelling directly towards it

Hint 3: If you are desperate either U2U me or download the Hints and Tips Guide from SeeJay's site - there are full instructions in it

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From post: 146548, Topic: tid=9879, author=JayStar wrote:ok mate ty ill give it a try.

i was doin kind of the same thing earlier ild sit just off centre to the black hole at 1750 gravity then jump ild hit the worm hole at 9k speed the warp tunnle would go blue then change for the bigger jump but even that ild blow up hitting the gate at 9k speed lol

i never had this trouble leaveing sol!! hehe

but ty for ya info ill try now
One thing you are doing wrong here is you are starting your jump already in the gravity pull of the Blackhole! Which will make your jumps into the wormhole futile!

Start from a Point outside the gravity influence of the Blackhole and then follow the advice, spoilers and or tactics mentioned by others!......;):P:cool:
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Don't give up JayStar! Navigating black holes was never meant to be an easy task. I know how it's done and even then I screw it up from time to time. With all the help you're getting in this thread I have no doubt you will get there eventually!


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hi guys..

thanks to you all for ya help and posts..

ima logg on now and carry on i built a station close to the wormhole for fuel and supplys..

just wanna get in there!! i have a 4k fuel tank, tractor beam and a deploy system... just wanna explore ehhehe

but ty again ill try all your tips now

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:cool: What Maars said about starting from outside the black hole. In fact, from outside the sector. Same as jumping to a gate. If you haven't already learned the "secret" to quick-jumps to a gate (almost necessary when transiting Hostile star systems), then that's what you should be practicing prior to attempting a jump into the void.
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still trying :):):):)

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im directly infrount of the blackhole just out side the gravity zone. so when i jump i jump in a straight line down.. my waypoint now brings me speeding out the first jump and land inside the blue orb and soon as i leave first jump instantly the second jump starts i slowing down from 10k hit the blue orb at about 8.5k then in a flash im back to 10k trying the second jump. my shields are at +5 with the best shield boost, i have a full crew all loyal,skilled and well paid. mantis jump drive, lvl 10 shield. i feel like im doing everything im told but yet 1 or so seconds in the 2nd jump Boom...

really wanna see this system ! :cool:

sorry to keep wasteing ya time...

many thanks :):)
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:cool: It only takes one jump. The second jump should be automatic ... it's what happens when you enter a wormhole. It takes you to the destination point ... which, if the wormhole loops around itself, puts you right back inside the black hole. Otherwise, it usually ends in a safer place ... perhaps in a place which is way, way out in the boondocks. Where you die from starvation. Slowly. Unless you can find your way back to civilization.
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From post: 146576, Topic: tid=9879, author=JayStar wrote:sorry to keep wasteing ya time...

many thanks :):)
Don't feel like you're wasting our time mate. We've all been where you are now and these things is what makes this game as good as it is. Not everything should be easy. If you had figured it out within 2 minutes time, it wouldn't have been fun at all would it. ;)
From post: 146576, Topic: tid=9879, author=JayStar wrote:... my waypoint now brings me speeding out the first jump and land inside the blue orb and soon as i leave first jump instantly the second jump starts i slowing down from 10k hit the blue orb at about 8.5k then in a flash im back to 10k trying the second jump.
Maybe you should try to find a way to keep your speed at 10K at the moment you hit the blue orb inside the black hole. The solution to your debacle lies there.
Think outside the box. ;)
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You are right Viper. I can jump with a Chimera now :)
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:cool: Not too much, Viper. In fact, sometimes too much information can be ... too much. If I was to follow the above instructions myself, I'd get confused.
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Also while jumping in and through the wormhole keep augmenting energy to front shields by repeatedly pressing the Key very fast you have assigned to augment energy to forward shields!....;):cool:
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:cool: And scream really loud ... something like, "Yaaahhhhh Sheena!" should do it. ;)