Number of sectors

Cheri50000 · Post by **Cheri50000** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:31 pm

Hi, guys!

I wanted to ask you, how many sectors SX, SY and SZ in evochron universe? Is it SX: 99,999, SY: 99,999 and SZ 99,999 or SX: 999,999, SY: 999,999 and SZ: 999,999? Thanks!! This is very interesting stuff indeed!!

Cheers,
Vincent

Capt_Caveman · Post by **Capt_Caveman** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:51 pm

there seems to be no limit, a few have been out as far as 10,000,000 or more, not much to see thou

Post by **Marvin** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:32 am

The Evoverse gets kind of strange once you wander beyond about 19,000 sectors in any direction. But strange can be good, right?

Salim · Post by **Salim** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:02 am

what you mean by "strange"?

Cheri50000 · Post by **Cheri50000** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:11 am

Hi, guys!

I think the evoverse goes as far as SX: 99,999,999, SY: 99,999,999, and SZ: 99,999,999 sectors!! I think if you go out far enough in space say about 10,000,000 sectors away in any direction from the Sapphire system which is at SX: 0, SY: 0, and SZ: 0 there won't be any stars, just the complete emptiness of space!!

Cheers,
Vincent

[Edited on 3-14-2012 by Cheri50000]

TJJ · Post by **TJJ** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:12 am

From post: 133128, Topic: tid=9087, author=Salim wrote:what you mean by "strange"?

Some fundamental game rules change.

Kilgore · Post by **Kilgore** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:14 am

From post: 133121, Topic: tid=9087, author=capt_cronic wrote:there seems to be no limit, a few have been out as far as 10,000,000 or more, not much to see thou

Whoa...

you just blew my mind bro

Post by **DaveK** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:29 pm

Maars has a magic crystal that lets him modify his jump drive to jump to any coordinate he wants - he's jumped to at least 300 000+ sectors out

I've got to 250 000 sectors eastwards from Sapphire the hard way (no magic crystal!) - jump - refuel and repeat . . .

It's a spoiler but if you want to know about the strangeness "out there", an account of my journey is available in the faction/mods thread under the title "Blog of a Deep Space Explorer" (in five parts)

One is discouraged from going too far out in MP because it can "break" the clan stats screen! It's lonely doing it in SP though

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:27 pm

Yes, my last jump attempt was succesfull to SX 10,000,000 SY 10,000,000 SZ 10,000,000. Nobody else has been this far out!....

:P

Cheri50000 · Post by **Cheri50000** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:25 pm

Hi, Maarschalk!

Holy mackerel, that's impressive! How long it takes you to get to SX: 10,000,000, SY: 10,000,000, and SZ: 10,000,000 sectors? Did you see no stars this far out? It sounds like the edge of the evochron universe is SX: 99,999,999, SY: 99,999,999, and SZ: 99,999,999 sectors from Sapphire before you end up get back from where you started.

Cheers,
Vincent

Frozen Eagle · Post by **Frozen Eagle** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:08 am

Assuming the use of signed 64-bit integers:
(9,223,372,036,854,775,807-(-9,223,372,036,854,775,808))^3 =
6,277,101,735,386,680,762,814,942,322,444,851,025,767,571,854,389,858,533,375 =
6.2771017353866807628149423224448510257675718543 Ã— 10^57 sectors

Assuming the use of signed 32-bit integers:
(2,147,483,647-(−2,147,483,648))^3 =
4,294,967,292 =
4.294967292 x 10^9 sectors

Cheri50000 · Post by **Cheri50000** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:44 am

Hi, FrozenEagle!

You are saying the evochron universe has 4,000,000,000 sectors from Sapphire to the edge of the evochron universe and eventually you'll end up get right back to where you started from where you left, right? Thanks! This is very interesting stuff indeed!!

Cheers,
Vincent

Frozen Eagle · Post by **Frozen Eagle** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:05 pm

It depends on how the game handles overflow.
It could loop because of how positive and negative numbers are represented in binary or it could break the game.

This is an example of how overflow works using 8-bit integers
0111 1111 = 127
1000 0000 = -128
Edit: This is for signed integers; for unsigned integers 1000 0000 = 128

[Edited on 3-15-2012 by Frozen Eagle]

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:55 pm

From post: 133215, Topic: tid=9087, author=Cheri50000 wrote:Hi, Maarschalk!

Holy mackerel, that's impressive! How long it takes you to get to SX: 10,000,000, SY: 10,000,000, and SZ: 10,000,000 sectors? Did you see no stars this far out? It sounds like the edge of the evochron universe is SX: 99,999,999, SY: 99,999,999, and SZ: 99,999,999 sectors from Sapphire before you end up get back from where you started.

Cheers,
Vincent

It took me 12 seconds like a normal jump would take!. No stars, some ships flying around and a lot of weird things like ghost planets, ships and nebulaes.....

Cheri50000 · Post by **Cheri50000** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:03 pm

Hi, guys!

I'm curious if the evochron universe goes on forever or it loops and many sectors from Sapphire before the evochron universe loops? Thanks!

Cheers,
Vincent

Cheri50000 · Post by **Cheri50000** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:06 pm

Hi, Maarachalk!

How did you get to SX: 10,000,000, SY: 10,000,000, and SZ: 10,000,000 sectors from Sapphire in 12 seconds and what kind of jump drive did you use? Thanks!

Cheers,
Vincent

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:09 pm

From post: 133266, Topic: tid=9087, author=Cheri50000 wrote:Hi, Maarachalk!

How did you get to SX: 10,000,000, SY: 10,000,000, and SZ: 10,000,000 sectors from Sapphire in 12 seconds and what kind of jump drive did you use? Thanks!

Cheers,
Vincent

This is a secret that I learned when I discovered how to land on earth! So I can not tell you any of the secrets I learned from the landing on earth!....

Post by **Marvin** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:18 pm

From post: 133265, Topic: tid=9087, author=Cheri50000 wrote:I'm curious if the evochron universe goes on forever or it loops and many sectors from Sapphire before the evochron universe loops?

"Loops" probably isn't the most accurate way to describe what happens. At some point, planets are mirrored ... kind of like Alice through the looking glass. Sort of. But not exactly. (It might be best to ask Professor Tyson.)

Cheri50000 · Post by **Cheri50000** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:47 pm

Hi, Marvin!

I'm sorry I didn't word it right, I meant to say how many sectors before you reach the end of the evochron universe if there is one? Thanks!

Cheers,
Vincent