Evochron Universe: Cube or infinite loop?

capellamusic · Post by **capellamusic** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:22 pm

Hi everyone, I've got a question about how the whole universe in Evochron Mercenary works in terms of limits.

When I see the game universe in http://mercenary.junholt.se/ I see 4 big blocks, in which 2 are empty, 1 has an Andromeda system and the other has the "game juice".

And what I'd like to know is:

1) The universe is represented in that big square, although in 3D it will be maybe like a cube. Is it limited by that cube's edges or does it loop? What happens if I reach one of those edges?

2) Looking at the game universe I see a lot of unused space, especially the right half of the map. Is it really empty are does that space have more to explore?

I'm just curious as to how it is because I can't even cover the whole systems already present in the map, much less even more than that

.

Thanks!

[Edited on 11-9-2011 by capellamusic]

49rTbird · Post by **49rTbird** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:56 pm

I think Maars should be able to answer that.

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:04 pm

2) There are many, many, many hidden systems that don't appear on the map. Only the systems with gates appear there.

capellamusic · Post by **capellamusic** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:14 pm

Thanks! I thought those on the map were everything there was (not that they wouldn't be enough! lol), but it's really great to know there's a lot more! I wasn't really expecting that as I didn't notice those shown on the map all had jump points. Excelent! I guess the Evochron universe just doubled or even more for me lol.

I hope the answer to 1) will be that the universe loops at the edges.

BTW, somewhat regarding 2, does the game allow us to build jump gates?

49rTbird · Post by **49rTbird** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:48 pm

No Gate building at this time:(! You never know what the future may bring though:)!

capellamusic · Post by **capellamusic** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:04 am

I hope it gets added in a future version, it would add a lot of awesomeness.

Borg vessels would be cool too

. Maybe we can model the ship as a cube. Hmmm, I have to try that

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[Edited on 12-9-2011 by capellamusic]

49rTbird · Post by **49rTbird** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:19 am

From post: 114732, Topic: tid=7977, author=capellamusic wrote:I hope it gets added in a future version, it would add a lot of awesomeness.

Borg vessels would be cool too . Maybe we can model the ship as a cube. Hmmm, I have to try that .

[Edited on 12-9-2011 by capellamusic]

We have had pilots visit as "Borg" and tried to assimilate us

with not much luck.

:P:D

capellamusic · Post by **capellamusic** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:35 am

lol, I guess resistance is not so futile then

.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:59 am

From post: 114724, Topic: tid=7977, author=capellamusic wrote:Hi everyone, I've got a question about how the whole universe in Evochron Mercenary works in terms of limits.

When I see the game universe in http://mercenary.junholt.se/ I see 4 big blocks, in which 2 are empty, 1 has an Andromeda system and the other has the "game juice".

And what I'd like to know is:

1) The universe is represented in that big square, although in 3D it will be maybe like a cube. Is it limited by that cube's edges or does it loop? What happens if I reach one of those edges?

2) Looking at the game universe I see a lot of unused space, especially the right half of the map. Is it really empty are does that space have more to explore?

I'm just curious as to how it is because I can't even cover the whole systems already present in the map, much less even more than that .

Thanks!

[Edited on 11-9-2011 by capellamusic]

I believe it is a Cube, and there is only one person I know of who reached sector SX 9999, SY 9999, SZ 9999 and that is Gorf.
He should be able to answer if it loops or not. Should be intresting to know. If 9999, 9999, 9999 was the limit and it looped you should end up in -9999, -9999, -9999 Since Saphire is the Center at 0, 0, 0 relatively speaking of course....

:P:P:P:P:P

49rTbird · Post by **49rTbird** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:01 am

Maars, Gorf, Gorf, Marrs, I get sooooo confused:D:P:D!

Post by **Marvin** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:10 am

There is "defined" space and there is "undefined" space. You get planets and stars and accurate system descriptions when exploring defined space. But, once you go beyond the very distant borders, things get really strange. Not so much a loop as a 3D Mobius strip. Or pot luck.

Post by **DaveK** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:24 pm

From post: 114726, Topic: tid=7977, author=Dingo wrote:2) There are many, many, many hidden systems that don't appear on the map. Only the systems with gates appear there.

There are even many more many's than Dingo said

Post by **DaveK** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:30 pm

From post: 114728, Topic: tid=7977, author=capellamusic wrote:
I hope the answer to 1) will be that the universe loops at the edges.

The real Universe sort of loops - if you travel in a straight line for long enough you get back to where you started, unless the multiverse thory is correct in which the edge of the universe is expanding faster than you can travel so you can never get there. The bit of the Universe we can see 13 or so billion light years is the limit because anything beyond that is going away at the speed of light and has a 13 billion light year head start

As far as I know (I think I read it in a thread), you can keep going outwards for ever. The edges in SeeJay's map are just a programming convenience

Post by **DaveK** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:32 pm

From post: 114746, Topic: tid=7977, author=Maarschalk wrote:
I believe it is a Cube, and there is only one person I know of who reached sector SX 9999, SY 9999, SZ 9999 and that is Gorf.
He should be able to answer if it loops or not. Should be intresting to know. If 9999, 9999, 9999 was the limit and it looped you should end up in -9999, -9999, -9999 Since Saphire is the Center at 0, 0, 0 relatively speaking of course....:P:P:P:P:P

I thought that Remula lives at 9999, 9999, 9999 - he never seems to be anywhere else on MP

EDIT - technically it's 9999, 9999, 9999

[Edited on 12-9-2011 by DaveK]

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:39 pm

Since I am living on the edge, I can tell you that it does NOT loop! Once past me, there is "nothingness"!

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:42 pm

Sounds dangerous, living on the Edge that is!.........

:P:P:P:P:P:P

capellamusic · Post by **capellamusic** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:45 pm

lol, maybe we get to fluidic space where the species 8-7-something live, when we reach the edge

. Or maybe we get to another StarWraith 3D Games universe, Fluidotron Mercenary

. So, there are also new games to explore after we pass the edge

.

Mecingo · Post by **Mecingo** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:37 pm

I believe SheildWolf has gone above 20000's in SZs, SXs, and SYs.

capellamusic · Post by **capellamusic** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:59 pm

And what did he see?

Shieldwolf · Post by **Shieldwolf** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:57 pm

From post: 116258, Topic: tid=7977, author=capellamusic wrote:And what did he see?

Woof !! So far I've seen Gorf's Ghost Planet in living color, ( have a couple of screen shots but don't know how to post em. Either that or me used newspapers burst into flame.) and tons of Talons.

:):):D:D:D:P:P:P;)

Dave S · Post by **Dave S** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:11 pm

I wonder if you go to sector 9999,9999,9999 if you would find a lonely little ship floating in space called R1? HMMMM!;)

Reaver 1 · Post by **Reaver 1** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:13 pm

If it is there, and I kill it, will the whole R1 server crash...and ALL stations be lost?

I'm headed there NOW to find out!

Dave S · Post by **Dave S** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:15 pm

Oh good GOD!:(:mad:

Please tell me that wouldn't happen...SOMEBODY?:o

capellamusic · Post by **capellamusic** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:16 pm

lolol, maybe there's where the answer to enter Earth lies

.

Post by **DaveK** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:16 pm

From post: 116263, Topic: tid=7977, author=Reaver 1 wrote:If it is there, and I kill it, will the whole R1 server crash...and ALL stations be lost?

I'm headed there NOW to find out!

Great Reaver 1 - good on you!

Take your time and send us a postcard when you get there. If you run out of fuel, post a distress call - there will be many who come quickly to give you fuel

:P:P . . . . perhaps