Clan [HB]

[Rubber Chicken]

I personally will be sad to see HB no longer has a calling card on the Clan Map. I won't pontificate about offline attacks because well, I have eliminated other clan's (never HB) stations when no one was looking.

Perhaps, at least for CAV server, resurrecting and revamping this concept might still allow HB to have an embassy on the map -

http://www.starwraith.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10433

[Iron man]

my apologize guys i didn't expected make you upset about that. I truly understand what you explained me and instead to be selfish i would like fix my misstake. Could ypu give me the authorization wear your clan tag and top up your % at 100% + build back the stations destroyed?

I respect your opinion and i won't touch any of your station and avoid running contract in olympus in the future unless i see one of you guys on. I will enjoy help you in ypur research and exchange some blade with you if its still ok.

Again I'm really sorry and i believe it was a problem of communication. please feel free send me a u2u if something wrong in the future.

[SeeJay]

Don't worry about it Iron and thanks for the offer.


This is not the first time, nor the last time, this kind
of "war" happens. Fighting for system control simply
doesn't work since no defence of any kind can be
setup for when a clan is offline.

We do not want any system at all anywhere so feel
free to do what you want with it, but do NOT
build HB stations or raise HB %.

[DaveK]

As SeeJay said, Iron man - thanks greatly for the offer, but HB is naturally nomadic and so it's to 'aroaming' we will return!

Perhaps one day the community will properly thrash out a clan system that will work and also be programmable for Vice. There have been several threads that have come up with some excellent suggestions (though how practical they are to programme is another matter ) including automated station defence systems for off line defence. The 5% pvp rule on CA-V is another interesting try at improving clan control and reducing the infamous pizza deliveries. If anyone thinks it's worth pursuing, let me know (post here or U2U me) and I'll gather up and sort out all the info posted so far and create a discussion document to get things started.

RC's idea of a cooperative system is a nice idea - it introduces newer players to the chores and advantages of being in a clan and gives a useful source of income (101K $$ every 12 minutes or so just for flying the tag). Clan income can be useful! I muffed it when I started my deep space exploration and left a hangar's worth of stuff in Talison which I'm being charged for 270K $$ every 20 mins). Refuelling is very expensive (Deploy fuel processors cost me an arm and a leg) and there is no opportunity - apart from clan fees - to supplement my income out there - no planets or trading stations and Build constructors don't work! Piracy not even an option - nowhere to sell the booty So I'm going to get stranded eventually when the $$$ runs out I've spent 3 billion so far - exploration far out of the core is a rich flyer's hobby!

[Major Grubert]

....the infamous pizza deliveries...

....exploration far out of the core is a rich flyer's hobby!...

so true

thanks for the first expression, that picture exactly my feelings...

[DaveK]

....the infamous pizza deliveries...

....exploration far out of the core is a rich flyer's hobby!...

so true

thanks for the first expression, that picture exactly my feelings...

I agree it sums up clan chores, but I cannot claim originality on 'pizza deliveries' - I first heard it from SeeJay

[Iron man]

Alright guys sorry again a new time for the disturbing.

[Utsuho]

So do you guys have a teamspeak or something the new guys can go join and try and get a co-op going or is that a rarity now?

[SeeJay]

No. No point since not many of us play right now.
Hardly anyone on when I check the servers so I
don't play much.

Clan BA has a TS server free to use.
I used that when I played a lot.

Can't use TS when my wife is home either.
I wake her up lol.

[Iron man]

You can probably use the ts of olympus prime server who's public.

[DaveK]

No. No point since not many of us play right now.
Hardly anyone on when I check the servers so I
don't play much.

Clan BA has a TS server free to use.
I used that when I played a lot.

Can't use TS when my wife is home either.
I wake her up lol.

So it's not just me then?

[mikeuk]

Hi

I have checked servers no one out there:(

[DaveK]

;)Hi Mike - I've just brought Atlas in CA-V back to 100%

Bear42 was on but apparently not chatting! . . . or I missed him - I was concentrating on getting the max pizzas/minute

Not sure whether it's just that it's Summer - when it's sunny in the UK the outdoors has a great attraction due to the rarity! Valerie has a list of what Marvin calls 'yard chores' for me - ventilation in Duke's stable (he has a major cough problem) . . . rebuild the pond (Valerie has a major weeding problem) . . . getting me to ride my bike - or at least 'soak up some photons' (Valerie worries about my health!!)

RL!

[DaveK]

Anyone know how long Galactica has been down? I've been away for a while and just got back

[Marvin]

It was up all day Sunday. So, some time after that.

[PaulB]

Don't worry about it Iron and thanks for the offer.


This is not the first time, nor the last time, this kind
of "war" happens. Fighting for system control simply
doesn't work since no defence of any kind can be
setup for when a clan is offline.

We do not want any system at all anywhere so feel
free to do what you want with it, but do NOT
build HB stations or raise HB %.

Maybe you could ask Vice to implementsomethig like this: When a clan wants to build on a server, the Administrator must issues a unique clan ID number to the Head of the clan, the HEAD would issue this ID to clan members. Vice would have to add upgrade to EM & the server S/W where each clan member enters the Clan number into EM and the server Admin enters the number into the Server. Only that Clan can build Clan stations that would have that hidden ID number. The server S/W would not allow allow a clan built station to be destroyed unless one of the following occurs:
(1) a Clan member (who has been given the ID by the clan Head can delete Clan stations anytime. (I suppose a gutter snipe person could possibly become a member of that clan with the purpose of being given the ID number to do sabotage and he would need to be discovered and banned from all servers.
(2) The server admin can delete anything since it's his server.
(3) A clan built station can otherwise only be destroyed (by a non-member of that clan) when one or more of the clan stations' clan is online (Vice could add an server option to specify how many said members must be online to allow destruction by non-members of that clan.

Before the Station detonator bomb explodes, the Server S/W checks to see if the clan station member(s) are online and if so it will destroy the station- otherwise - dud-bomb - and a log entry generated of the attempt and the name and IP address of the attacker.

Seems that would go a long way to making things work as most people would wish????


[Edited on 6-18-2014 by Marvin]

[SeeJay]

Thanks for the idea Paul.

I just think you did explain it to Vice yourself, since I think that Vice reads most of the stuff in this forum.
That setup might actually work pretty well.

I have suggested several ideas myself but I have no idea how difficult they would be to implement.

Thanks again,
SeeJay

[_-Caleb-_]

Don't worry about it Iron and thanks for the offer.


This is not the first time, nor the last time, this kind
of "war" happens. Fighting for system control simply
doesn't work since no defence of any kind can be
setup for when a clan is offline.

We do not want any system at all anywhere so feel
free to do what you want with it, but do NOT
build HB stations or raise HB %.

Maybe you could ask Vice to implementsomethig like this: When a clan wants to build on a server, the Administrator must issues a unique clan ID number to the Head of the clan, the HEAD would issue this ID to clan members. Vice would have to add upgrade to EM & the server S/W where each clan member enters the Clan number into EM and the server Admin enters the number into the Server. Only that Clan can build Clan stations that would have that hidden ID number. The server S/W would not allow allow a clan built station to be destroyed unless one of the following occurs:
(1) a Clan member (who has been given the ID by the clan Head can delete Clan stations anytime. (I suppose a gutter snipe person could possibly become a member of that clan with the purpose of being given the ID number to do sabotage and he would need to be discovered and banned from all servers.
(2) The server admin can delete anything since it's his server.
(3) A clan built station can otherwise only be destroyed (by a non-member of that clan) when one or more of the clan stations' clan is online (Vice could add an server option to specify how many said members must be online to allow destruction by non-members of that clan.

Before the Station detonator bomb explodes, the Server S/W checks to see if the clan station member(s) are online and if so it will destroy the station- otherwise - dud-bomb - and a log entry generated of the attempt and the name and IP address of the attacker.

Seems that would go a long way to making things work as most people would wish????


[Edited on 6-18-2014 by Marvin]

I like the idea but, is this the original concept of evochron? is this a total freedom? No, i think.

Maybe the clan members can see who destroy their stations, and this is good for the PvP or CvC, but nothing more, i think.

Regards.

EDITED: With this method, the clan control of the systems are for the clan with more players. no?

Im the only one [CDE] active member today, and im the last defense line (and the only one xD) for my systems in the server, if any clan reclaim my territory is the war, clean or unclean. Just this. My lamprey are ready for the combat 24/7

If you hide your stations, other clans can't destroy it, if their can't found, right?

EDITED 2: One idea for the future:

Buy self-defense weapons for the player's stations, or AI combat wingmans, for prevent stat. detonations, and for add some difficulty to the destroy stations action.
[Edited on 18-6-2014 by _-Caleb-_]

[Edited on 18-6-2014 by _-Caleb-_]

[SeeJay]

As I have explained numerous times. There can't be a war in this game since anything can be taken/destroyed without any defenses what so ever.
War requires a defense at all times one way or the other.

For further discussions regarding game improvements, please post at the correct thread and not in the HB thread.
It's more likely that Vice might consider any idea if they are posted at the right place.

[Iron man]

I met Member Davek today on cety alpha V server. I have done the guinea pig to davek experience and we have done some friendly PVP fight.
I salute the excellent skills of this Veteran and I hope I could meet him again quickly

[itema12]

May i join the clan?
I wasn't sure if to ask or i wasnt supposed to

well im a new pilot and i would love to join [HB]

[SeeJay]

May i join the clan?
I wasn't sure if to ask or i wasnt supposed to

well im a new pilot and i would love to join [HB]

Hi and welcome to space.

You are welcome to join our humble bunch.
Keep in mind that we are not very active at the moment.
We do not claim any systems either.

If you still want to join, send me a u2u.
I'll teach you what I know. It'll take 30sec or so ;-)

[SeeJay]

On Monday (21st of July)I'm off to Italy (Pisa region) for a 2 week holiday.

Any map updates sent to me will not be implemented until I get home.
This week about 100 new systems was added to the map.

Fly safe!:P

[Iron man]

Nice job
Have a nice holiday mate.

[DennyMala]

On Monday (21st of July)I'm off to Italy (Pisa region) for a 2 week holiday.

Any map updates sent to me will not be implemented until I get home.
This week about 100 new systems was added to the map.

Fly safe!:P

Well, welcome then!

You'll be pretty near where I live.

Too bad the weather don't look to be so good... let's hope it gets better.

May you need any help or direction just drop me a U2U and I'll try to help.