Basic combat tips

SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:25 am

Hi Viper.

You bribe ships by target ships and press F4 (Trade console ship-ship).
Then offer it some cash. He will then accept or deny your bribe.

To increase your reputation you'll need to do contracts for a faction.
I do contracts for Navy or Energy when I want to raise my reputation.
Check your Nav console (F1) to check your current reputation.
If it's Hostile, you need to stay in that system continuing doing contracts until it
changes to Fair. (I think it's between 70-80% rep for that faction you are doing
contracts for).
If you leave before that, the % drops back and you need to start over next time you enter that system.
You can check how it works here:
http://www.starwraith.com/evochronlegen ... de.htm#220

However, I think this only works for SP and not for MP. (I stand corrected if I'm wrong).
/SeeJay

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:53 am

From post: 112473, Topic: tid=7844, author=SeeJay wrote:Check your Nav console (F1) to check your current reputation.
If it's Hostile, you need to stay in that system continuing doing contracts until it changes to Fair. (I think it's between 70-80% rep for that faction you are doing contracts for).
http://www.starwraith.com/evochronlegen ... de.htm#220[/url]

Thanks again SeeJay, but that's more or less where the problem lies. The quest dictates me to go to Sierra space, but pretty much everything is hostile there. So even when I do a mission for the Navy against 7 targets, I still end up with 20-30 odd hostiles, coz all the contract-allies are also hostile to me. Bit of a p.i.t.a. atm. My skills are getting better but taking on so many all at the same time is a bit too much for me.

[Edited on 8-14-2011 by Red Viper]

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:10 pm

I'm gonna try doing a lot of Navy missions in Talison, see if that helps my Navy rep in Sierra as well.

MMaggio · Post by **MMaggio** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:27 pm

You can only change your rep like that in SP.

SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:29 pm

I suggest that you join MP and other pilots can help doing that contract with you.
You learn a lot in MP and your skill level will increase much faster fighting with other pilots.

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:20 pm

I understand that things will be a lot easier in MP with everyone's help, but it should be doable to complete the quest on your own right? Some people only play the SP and they should be able to fix it as well.
So I'd like to see it through.
I have found that the best way to sort my rep is to jump from location to location and snatch Guild and Rebel ships out of the air. Also docking REALLY quickly on a base, grabbing a Navy contract and wooshing off to the waypoint improving works. Got my rep up from 13 to 24 now. Tedious yes, but it works. If there are other ways to sort the rep, I'd be happy to hear 'em.

Post by **Marvin** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:59 pm

From post: 112475, Topic: tid=7844, author=Red Viper wrote:The quest dictates me to go to Sierra space, but pretty much everything is hostile there. So even when I do a mission for the Navy against 7 targets, I still end up with 20-30 odd hostiles, coz all the contract-allies are also hostile to me.

Unless it's an escort contract, you only need worry about the 7 ... kill them and you complete the contract. But, if it is an escort mission, it's a good idea to get help. If you don't want help, do it in SP after building up your reputation.

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:06 pm

Thanks, I'll do that. Getting better at dodging 10 missiles at a time now lol. Once I join MP yall won't even be able to hit me lmao!

But uhm, is this rep issue normal for this stage in the quest? Or is it due to something I have done along the way. If it's the latter, I'll stop nagging you all lol. (and probably start over)

Post by **Marvin** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:08 pm

The quest has a progressive difficulty level. As you go along, you're sent to more hostile systems.

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:24 pm

I know, but it's the Navy I'm talking about lol. First I was green to them, and now all the sudden red...

Post by **Marvin** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:39 am

If you're using Excals and manage to destroy all reds with less than the full load ... possibly one or more of the extras will then lock on to a Navy ship. Or you might've "dinged" one by accident. Either way, the Navy can be unforgiving.

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:23 pm

I have probably taken missions against Navy in the beginning of the quest, I'm afraid I haven't payed attention to reputations at the start.
My rep with the Navy is slowly getting better by shooting random Rebels in space and taking missions; it's now up to 41%. I have tried bribing some Navy pilots as described to me earlier in this thread (using the ship-to-ship trade console), but to no avail. Could it be that I have not offered them enough credits? What should be the minimum I should offer them that would actually make a difference?

And just to be straight, I cannot alter my reps in any way in MP?

Thanks again for the advise guys.

BraveHart · Post by **BraveHart** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:56 pm

"Hey Viper...have you ever tried accepting a bribe from one of your hostiles during a mission? It's a Great way to pick up some extra cash and the best part:...you can shoot down the hostile that gave you the money"

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:24 pm

You know (and I'm not kidding here), I have seriously wondered why ships that are hostile to me send me a trade request in the middle of a battle. I reckoned they were probably not that concerned with me closing in on their six trying to blow their pretty backside to bits and decided now was a good a time as any to sell me some worthless loot lol. Also never really taken the time to open the window, was probably busy dodging missiles... But they're actually trying to bribe me LOL! [insert embarrassed smiley here]

Thanks for the tip mate, next time I get hailed I won't be so quick to blow 'em up lol.

[Edited on 8-17-2011 by Red Viper]

Post by **Marvin** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:09 am

From post: 112644, Topic: tid=7844, author=Red Viper wrote:And just to be straight, I cannot alter my reps in any way in MP?

You can change your rep with individual factions but not the local system (global) rep. In IM territory, my rep for Navy, etc. is at 100% while Rebel, etc. rep is at 0% ... but the overall reputation level remains Fair. And, unless I use the same profile in SP or attack the good guys in MP, those levels should remain at 100%/0%.

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:58 pm

So how do you guys deal with your global reps then? Do any of you still have hostile reps in MP for certain systems, and what do you do when you want to change that for the better, go SP for a bit?

I'm thinking about abandoning the quest and just joining MP as is. I just found out that my rep is screwed in more systems than just the one I have to do that mission in, and the only real option would be to do the whole thing over with a new char. And tbh I don't really feel for that.
I really prefer earning my own money and purchase a ship and equipment with that, but tbh the way things are going now I'm getting nowhere fast lol. So what would you guys recommend, taking my SP char (along with the bad reps), which has like 3 mill on it into MP, or set up a new one there? (assuming here that most global reps are at least moderate or better).

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:01 pm

From post: 112905, Topic: tid=7844, author=Red Viper wrote:So how do you guys deal with your global reps then? Do any of you still have hostile reps in MP for certain systems, and what do you do when you want to change that for the better, go SP for a bit?

I'm thinking about abandoning the quest and just joining MP as is. I just found out that my rep is screwed in more systems than just the one I have to do that mission in, and the only real option would be to do the whole thing over with a new char. And tbh I don't really feel for that.
I really prefer earning my own money and purchase a ship and equipment with that, but tbh the way things are going now I'm getting nowhere fast lol. So what would you guys recommend, taking my SP char (along with the bad reps), which has like 3 mill on it into MP, or set up a new one there? (assuming here that most global reps are at least moderate or better).

I don't bother about rep at all. Many areas are still hostile for me in MP, but the thing is that MP is less hostile overall anyway, outside of a very few systems. I say just hop on MP and see what you think. For me, MP had greatly accelerated the learning curve. my two cents anyway.

Post by **Marvin** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:31 pm

In MP, the only way you can mess up a global rep is to shoot a friendly AI ... normally it's done by firing Excals at one enemy fighter, blowing it up with less than all the missiles, and then the remaining missiles hitting a friendly. In MP, you can correct that error by having all players exit the sector, then re-enter ... reputation is reset.