NEW MULTI-ROLE HEAVY FIGHTER CONCEPT

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:46 pm

The hardpoints reduction seems a bit odd since most pilots already rely more on the primary weapons as it is, at least from what I seen so far.

At least 95% of my kills are with my primary weapons if not more, having more hardpoints may shift this gunnery to a more versatile combat scenario.
I also feel that the lack of a self repair makes having a crew of more then 1 redundant since the only reason to bring an Engineer is to boost self repair.
I still suggest to keep the self repair though since it seems silly to deny a combat ship the current technology available.
Additionally I would like to see this frame being available on Carriers and that you can fly it anywhere, this will make it interesting to invade the Vonari homeworld for some real action, or them new race that has been discovered some time ago.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 pm

Avenger.I Actually agree a Repair System Should be available to load,it's just that most players have indicated that the CONDOR was Over-Armoured and Shielded.I should have Listened to my Gut and left the Repair System in, so that's what I'm going to do, but I will limit it to a C2.

I think Players (Military) are Beginning to See what I want to Accomplish with this Frame,the Invasion of the Vonari HomeWorld being #1.

As any othe MILITARY Frame it would ONLY be Available on Carriers.

When It Comes to Primary Weapons I'm with You.It's very rare I fire 2 Missles in Any Battle.I much Prefer GunFights.
The Reduction in Hardpoints is Also due to the Reduction in the Frames Size.I believe that a Frame moderatly Larger than a CHIMERA should accomodate at least a Small Increase in Hardpoints.So I reduced them to 10.

If You have Any More Input as to How to Configure the CONDOR into a Better Military Frame I'd really like to here them.That goes for Anyone.

I put alot of Thought into this Frame before Posting It , but I wanted it to Be a Frame that Most Soldiers (Military) would be Pleased with.

Also,the 3 Cargo Bays I put in so a Pilot could carry 2 Other Cannons he may wish to Swap Out during Battle.(I usually use an IceSpear or Firefury in Combat but ALWAYS Carry a Maxim-C in my Cargo Bay).The Multiple Cargo Bays would also Help to Offset the Aquisition/Operating Cost of this Frame by Moving More Cargo per Trip(I think we all know it's the Crates that give us some Quick Cash.lol.).

As For Use, Though I like the Thought of "Restricted Use in Conflict/Warzones",I think it would be more Advantagious for the Pilot to have this Frame follow the Rules of All Other Frames,Meaning Take Anywhere,Fight Anywhere.

Avenger (Or Anyone.lol.) how can I Add a Bottom Banner Like Yours?(mine is Only Words)
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KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:43 pm

Avenger.I Actually agree a Repair System Should be available to load,it's just that most players have indicated that the CONDOR was Over-Armoured and Shielded.I should have Listened to my Gut and left the Repair System in, so that's what I'm going to do, but I will limit it to a C2.

I think Players (Military) are Beginning to See what I want to Accomplish with this Frame,the Invasion of the Vonari HomeWorld being #1.

As any othe MILITARY Frame it would ONLY be Available on Carriers.

When It Comes to Primary Weapons I'm with You.It's very rare I fire 2 Missles in Any Battle.I much Prefer GunFights.
The Reduction in Hardpoints is Also due to the Reduction in the Frames Size.I believe that a Frame moderatly Larger than a CHIMERA should accomodate at least a Small Increase in Hardpoints.So I reduced them to 10.

If You have Any More Input as to How to Configure the CONDOR into a Better Military Frame I'd really like to here them.That goes for Anyone.

I put alot of Thought into this Frame before Posting It , but I wanted it to Be a Frame that Most Soldiers (Military) would be Pleased with.

Also,the 3 Cargo Bays I put in so a Pilot could carry 2 Other Cannons he may wish to Swap Out during Battle.(I usually use an IceSpear or Firefury in Combat but ALWAYS Carry a Maxim-C in my Cargo Bay).The Multiple Cargo Bays would also Help to Offset the Aquisition/Operating Cost of this Frame by Moving More Cargo per Trip(I think we all know it's the Crates that give us some Quick Cash.lol.).

As For Use, Though I like the Thought of "Restricted Use in Conflict/Warzones",I think it would be more Advantagious for the Pilot to have this Frame follow the Rules of All Other Frames,Meaning Take Anywhere,Fight Anywhere.

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TGS · Post by **TGS** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:57 am

InkedMike are you planning on trying to mod this ship in? Because nothing personal but you are taking a very very hands on approach for a "concept" ship. In fact you are kind of acting as though you are the developer and you are trying to self-balance it lol. It's funny.

That being said really the only way a ship like this could work GIVEN its power is if when you died you lost your ship and got stuck in a generic frame. At this point dying yields no loss what so ever. Even if Vice implemented a loss system where you lost a small amount of money the power of this ship means you are likely to grossly minimize your potential losses. I don't particularly like the balance in Evochron because it's a pseudo-balance. It's designed in a way that makes people think there's balance when in fact such a balance does not really exist. It does however allow great flavor. It allows people to play a ship type that they are comfortable with and that they want to play. That being said there are a couple frames that I've realized that are "The best" and that isn't necessarily a good thing, which ultimately means your ship would simply be adding another to that list of "The best" ships.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:22 am

I don't Mod.It's just an Idea.I Would never Act as a "Developer" of Anything in this Game.Firstly, the Games Concept is Unique and Doesn't need my Help in GamePlay, Secondly, I couldn't write a Single Line of Code even if there was a Gun to my Head.lol.I just enjoy creating Ships/Weapons/Equipment I would Like,and hope Others would like, and try to make them the Best They Can be and most True to EM.

As I said in previous Replies.This Ship would not be for everyone.Mostly Pilots who Spend their Time Fighting Vonari.

I disagree that this ship would only work using your Scenario.The Numbers on this Ship (Armour,Shields,Weapons,etc,) would but it in a Class just Above the CHIMERA In Military Frames making it a natural Progression from the Chimera.I don't believe the CONDOR OverPowered for It's Size, just check the numbers more closely.

And Don't Discount the Fact you'd have to reach the rank of Captain to access this frame.That would Require You to Spend a Fair Percentage of your gameTime in Conflict/Warzones Fight Vonari.

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:48 am

even with my opinion that an agile ship like the evoch e is death on rollerskates, and that a slug like the chimera is about as fun to fly as a bucket, your condor is still waaaaay overpowered. I'm all for new ship ideas and concepts, and applaud your efforts at such, but that crazy armor, dual cannons, extra eq slots (you want vending machines on board or something?) and 3 extra cargo slots, are just overboard. Like my use of commas instead of periods. and i spend about 95.82% of my time in warzones.

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KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:14 pm

As I said.The Ships not for Everyone.Also, I think if you actually Read the Follow Ups you's see It's Not Overpowered and the Reason for the 3 Cargo Bays...By The Way...I Fly a Chimera and Think it's a Great Ship.

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:39 pm

if I read the follow ups my head just might burst from the circular logic. Still, gotta admire your enthusiasm.

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:42 pm

Also, I think it needs 32 more secondary weapon slots because I might want to swap out different types of missiles. It's not overpowered tho because there is a reason for it.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:44 pm

I don't like the Chimera, it flies like a truck, the Evoch-E makes me dizzy so I fly the middle of the 2 ships, the Avenger.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:36 pm

I know what You Mean.I just Dial-up my IDS to x2 and it Helps but,yeah...there's nothing for Agility like the Smaller Frames.When I was flying the Wraith and the C I had just come off a Starmaster and I was ALL OVER!lol.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:08 pm

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SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:21 pm

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KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:29 pm

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KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:31 pm

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SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:34 pm

You need to remove the "space" just before [/img]

I tested it. works nice.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:34 pm

LOL.It Worked once....In YOUR REPLY BOX!lol.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:36 pm

Sorry My Friend.I'm Hopeless with Computer Codes/Language.lol.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:37 pm

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SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:38 pm

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Now, just enter the link exactly as I sent it in your Avatar URL.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:41 pm

I Get It NOW.Copy and Paste the Link In My AVATAR Box....D'uh...I was Clicking on It!lol.

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:48 pm

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KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:55 pm

SeeJay.I Copy/Paste it in My Avatar url and it Disappears.lol.Doesn't Work for Me...Suprised?lol

SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:56 pm

Did you check your email? change the .gif to .jpg in the link!;)

KingArthur · Post by **KingArthur** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:49 pm

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