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Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:40 am
by LordZeroZX
Is there a way to have Tobii eyex eye tracking controller control the head tracking in Evochron Legacy and maybe even Mercenary?

Edit: I figured out a work around to have it work in the game but I am not able to put view controls on the two axis.

[Edited on 2-4-2016 by LordZeroZX]

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:03 pm
by Delta99
Yeah, I would like to be able to set view controls to work via an Axis. Then we can definitely do this no problem.

For Vice's knowledge. EyeX will use a Virtual Joystick (vJoy) as in input for your eye movements. I see that my vJoy is recognized in game so as long as we can set up an axis for viewing we are good.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:51 pm
by Vice
Interesting, if that's all it would take, it should be feasible to add support for mapping view control to two axis inputs. I'll look into it.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:52 pm
by viper691
Wow! didnt know anything about the Tobi Eyex until i saw this, im picking one up as soon as they come in stock. I have been using and EDtracker wired and wireless versions for now but that looks awesome.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:18 pm
by Delta99
viper691 wrote:Wow! didnt know anything about the Tobi Eyex until i saw this, im picking one up as soon as they come in stock. I have been using and EDtracker wired and wireless versions for now but that looks awesome.
The only problem with EyeX is that they only officially support a very small number of games and so far they have been "lame" in allowing one to set a "standard" config that will just work with any game. For some reason they want to detect what game you are running when it isn't really necessary.

I've got a "hacked" solution that allows one to get EyeX to interface to vJoy no matter what game is running. So if the game can map vJoy inputs its all good.

Testing something extremely interesting with Evochron right now :)

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:27 am
by LordZeroZX
The work around is just launching a game that the tobii eyex supports. That will enable the input feed to vjoy. Then all you have to do is minimize the game and run the game you want it to work on and map the 2 vjoy axis.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:41 am
by Delta99
I have a better one for you on this. Rather than running a full game that can take up a ton of memory etc. even when its just sitting in the background or minimized you can copy notepad.exe and rename it to EliteDangerous64.exe for example (any game EXE that EyeX is looking for).

Then EyeX will output to vJoy and you can map the vJoy axis.

Oh, the other thing is that vJoy is a bit of an EyeX cludge to get games to work that don't support FreeTrack (or is it OpenTrack, I can never remember). Otherwise games would work a lot better and wouldn't need to rely on vJoy. Like Arma3 for example. It supports FreeTrack so works with EyeX and without the cludgy vJoy.

Also, games like The Division I believe support EyeX natively so they will be able to do even more with it from what I understand.

Vice, are you going to make the announcement on this ;) It will make a lot of EyeX people really happy!!!
From post: 185510, Topic: tid=12245, author=LordZeroZX wrote:The work around is just launching a game that the tobii eyex supports. That will enable the input feed to vjoy. Then all you have to do is minimize the game and run the game you want it to work on and map the 2 vjoy axis.
[Edited on 2-18-2016 by Delta99]

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:40 am
by Vice
Support for horizontal and vertical view control via axis inputs is being added for the next update. I think there are some who also already use FreeTrack with the game also for TrackIR type head control... it somehow hooks into the TrackIR input system that the game has native support for.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:37 am
by Delta99
Yeah, I haven't been able to get EyeX "hacked" to work with any FreeTrack games other than the ones they officially support. They are probably hooking into it somehow differently but not sure. I've been in contact with their support and have asked that they open things up to that people with some knowledge can get other games working easily but they seem to be reluctant to do it. They seem to want to hand hold people and provide their own interface but unless they start supporting more games soon they won't get much traction.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:05 am
by LordZeroZX
Delta99 wrote:I have a better one for you on this. Rather than running a full game that can take up a ton of memory etc. even when its just sitting in the background or minimized you can copy notepad.exe and rename it to EliteDangerous64.exe for example (any game EXE that EyeX is looking for).
Oh, cool. I didn't know you could do that. Thanks :)

Edit: doesn't seem to work. Every time I run the renamed notepad copy I get an error from eyex infinite screen.

[Edited on 2-18-2016 by LordZeroZX]

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:42 pm
by Radikal
EyeX and Tir4Fun might be a good combination.
I really need to get a camera.... :(

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:00 pm
by Delta99
Whats the error from EyeX Infinite Screen?
LordZeroZX wrote: Oh, cool. I didn't know you could do that. Thanks :)

Edit: doesn't seem to work. Every time I run the renamed notepad copy I get an error from eyex infinite screen.

[Edited on 2-18-2016 by LordZeroZX]

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:02 pm
by Delta99
Radikal wrote:EyeX and Tir4Fun might be a good combination.
I really need to get a camera.... :(
I don't see why you'd need Tir4Fun if you have EyeX. Plus I think the FacetrackNOIR (which I believe Tir4Fun is part of) messes with EyeX. At least people that were having problems with EyeX were told to uninstall FacetrackNOIR

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:45 pm
by LordZeroZX
Delta99 wrote:Whats the error from EyeX Infinite Screen?
One of the errors is "Error: Process with an id of 33028 is not running." and the id nunber keeps changing each time this error pops up. The second error is "Error: invalid uri: the uri is empty."

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:07 am
by Delta99
Is your EyeX working at all with anything else? This doesn't sound related to trying to do this notepad trick.
LordZeroZX wrote:Whats the error from EyeX Infinite Screen?

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:27 am
by LordZeroZX
Delta99 wrote:Is your EyeX working at all with anything else? This doesn't sound related to trying to do this notepad trick.
The error only shows up when I double click the renamed notepad. If I launch elite dangerous it works perfectly.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:23 am
by Delta99
LordZeroZX wrote:Is your EyeX working at all with anything else? This doesn't sound related to trying to do this notepad trick.
Strange but I guess stick with what works.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:55 am
by LordZeroZX
Delta99 wrote:Strange but I guess stick with what works.
Thanks for help :)

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:42 am
by Delta99
Because of the amazing Vice here is tricking EyeX to work with Evochron - https://youtu.be/6lqT_8ZNaEU

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:52 am
by LordZeroZX
With the new 1.2.0.419 update of the Tobii EyeX infinity screen extention, the eyex doesn't work with EL anymore. You can get it to work if you enable the 3D headtracking option but the vertical look is inverted and there is no way to fix that both in the game or in the Infinity screen extension software.

Tobii Eyex for Legacy and Mercenary

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:55 pm
by Delta99
Yeah, I haven't played Legacy in a while since they made the changes. In the EyeX developers infinite wisdom they decided to point to the exact .exe from the game directory so I am not certain how you can trick it by running a renamed notepad.exe. I suspect you can just change the game directory to where you have the renamed notepad.exe but I haven't tried this yet.

The developers for EyeX are just not too bright and want to tightly control what games EyeX will support. Its extremely narrow sighted in my opinion.