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Maarschalk
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They come after you to, if you challange them, even if they have to die several times before killing you.....  
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Reaver 1
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Posts: 105
Registered: 9-25-2011
Location: BEYOND
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Mood: Showing the hypocrisy for what it is!
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There was a very interesting development today...
Members from the following clans/groups were witnessed attacking stations belonging to clans who were OFFLINE!!!
- Humble Bumblebees [HB]
- Independent Merchants [IM]
- Galactic Defense Force [GDF]
Each of these groups have vehemently denounced the act of destroying a rival's space stations when they were offline. We the Reavers have agreed that
we will only attack stations, and we have strictly abided by this agreement. Today a multitude of Reaver Space Stations were destroyed when there was
no Reaver online to defend them. This shows the true hypocrisy of the clans IM, HB, and GDF.
I am especially shocked by the actions of GDF who claims to be defenders only, and has no offensive goals, and by HB who screamed the loudest when EG
attacked their stations when they were offline. Your back-stabbing, and re-interpretation of the "rules" when the current circumstances are not to
your liking show all of us what kinds of core values your clans truly possess.
The best part of all is that this was all part of our plan!!!
I knew that you would be unable to resist killing stations when the other clan was offline and that is why we planted those stations...in a system
with a [RVS] ownership tag... We knew your agreements were hollow, and your honor flexible and you were morally weak.
WE CHOSE THE TUNE, AND YOU FREELY DANCED TO IT
Our strategy allowed us to play you like the soft little fiddles your proved yourselves to be. Thank you
The clans IM, HB, and GDF have shown the entire universe what you are truly made of. Instead of moving immediately to the offensive though, I will
take the high road and give each of your clans one day to post your formal clan apologies here on this thread. Convince the EM universe that this was
all a mistake on your part, and that you will immediately depart our new star system with the promise to not conduct military operations there
again.
If you are men (and robots) of honor, you will accept this generous offer of peace. If you do not...well, it will not be us to blame for the carnage
that will follow.
I await your responses.
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Dave S
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Posts: 147
Registered: 2-10-2011
Location: Infinity & Moving Fast
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Wait
You say that GDF was blowing up stations? While I can see HB and even IM (since you were in their old territory) attacking your stations, I would be
kinda surprised if Galaxian authorized a strike against your stations. That is just not their style. They only attack when someone is being attacked
and they request assistance. That's what keeps them morally above board.
I do agree that NOBODY should attack anyone else's stations when they are not online, even (and I REALLY hate to say this) against the reavers. It
sets a bad precedent.
I never thought that the reavers would or could be so devious. Well played you wily little reavers.
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Marvin
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Actually, Reaver speaks out both sides of his mouth. The facts are these:
Reaver violated the agreement first by destroying stations in IM territory when no IM pilot was on line. Only four or five stations had been
destroyed while I was attempting to halt Reaver 1's invasion (after which, Reaver 1 logged off) ... many other stations were destroyed afterward. Who
do you think you're trying to kid, Reaver?
As stated previously, IM still claims the territory. There is no written agreement stating that invaders have legal claim to any territory
simply because they destroy rival stations and build their own. Ergo, IM maintains its claim (and priority) by right of discovery.
Only a couple RVS stations had been destroyed before you logged on. Yet you made no effort to stop IM's redevelopment effort ... as you
would've done had you actually made valid claim to the territory.
Any help given IM by other clans or guilds was, therefore, perfectly legal and appropriate. It was you who violated the code of the universe.
We were simply rectifying an unjust situation. You were the ones in the wrong.
I repeat: Who do you think you're kidding?
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Dingo
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Registered: 10-17-2010
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I do admit that I acted on behalf of GDF allies in re-establishing control of IM space. Both IM and HB leaders were present. Station detonators were
used by all parties involved. This was an action re-establishing IM control of their space, not an act of war. It is IM space and Marvin made that
case perfectly well.
Since these action seem to be in question, I will personally refrain from such until the UP is formed and the question of system ownership and
sovereignty is decided. After such time, I will act at any and every opportunity to fulfill GDF's new role as the peacekeeping arm of UP.
[Edited on 10-21-2011 by Dingo]
Life is an illusion. Only shooting red things is real.
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Galaxian
Lieutenant
Posts: 390
Registered: 9-21-2010
Location: Classified
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Mood: Pointy end toward bad guy
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Intel gathered from intercepted Reaver comms:
"Info:
Reavers are hostile but they tend to stay on the edges of space. They will defend their territory and attack any pilots they come across if they feel
hungry or any pilots that come into their area."
This statement is a general declaration of open hostility toward everyone your kind encounters. Openly hostile entities should expect to be met with
significant resistance while attempting to take over human or friendly space. 
Regarding station detonators being employed by GDF operators: Ordnance deployed in the course of DEFENDING friendly space against the incursion of
overtly hostile alien forces is authorized.
Rebuilding the area is up to the rightful owner of the property.
GDF is not a clan (no clan tag). GDF is an independent security contractor and does not engage in clan business of any kind.
[Edited on 10-21-2011 by Galaxian]
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Reaver 1
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Registered: 9-25-2011
Location: BEYOND
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Mood: Showing the hypocrisy for what it is!
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Marvin,
Your ability to justify your underhanded deeds is truly in the finest Reaver tradition. Are you sure you weren't programmed by one of us?
Your OLD star system was annexed legally by us. We went into the area and did several hundred missions. This legitimately brought your clan's
ownership to zero. Since we had one station in the system, the EM program switched system ownership over to us. Face it, you lost the system and the
EM program even validated it. When you went to the quandrant map the system showed it as [RVS] control. We did not destroy a single space station of
yours until well after we had OFFICIAL ownership, and any clan has the right and responsibility to defend its space from other clan's stations located
in its territory. Your claim to that system died when control shifted to us. So when you attacked OUR stations in OUR space, you were wrong!
It really is OK to be magnanimous and admit your loss of the system as fair and square. So I await your recognition of your wrong doing so you can
continue to hold your head high...or you can continue to make loose claims of "well we used to own it therefore it will always be ours regardless of
any inconvenient facts to the contrary".
You should feel ashamed that you duped the GDF into your illegal military operations. You are sullying their good name. How can anyone see your new
UP organization as anything less than a sham with the record that you and the GDF are building?
If IM can't admit their wrong doings, then at least the GDF do the right thing and distance itself from such dishonorable activities.
GDF personnel, you are of an honorable tradition and your original core values are sound. Be the galactic leaders I know you to be and renounce IM's
actions so we can move hand-in-hand into a new, proud future.
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SeeJay
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Posts: 2790
Registered: 8-11-2010
Location: Sweden
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Reaver1.
If you are expecting an apology from me, dream on.
I was acting according to HB standard ROE.
1. The system was at 26% when I got on. (Below 50% is not owning anything).
2. Cleaning out a system not in control is according to HB standard operations.
3. I witnessed Reaver1 bringing down IM control by doing contracts when IM was offline.
4. That is not honorable in my opinion.
5. The Reaver has been attacking HB systems when we were offline, so consider this
payback with the difference that I did follow ROE.
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Marvin
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Registered: 3-4-2009
Location: Fallon
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As of yet, the United Planets has no guidelines. They will be set by its
charter members in due time. The quidelines will be specific and spelled out in this forum for all to read.
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Reaver 1
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Posts: 105
Registered: 9-25-2011
Location: BEYOND
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Quote: Originally posted by SeeJay  | Reaver1.
If you are expecting an apology from me, dream on.
I was acting according to HB standard ROE.
1. The system was at 26% when I got on. (Below 50% is not owning anything).
2. Cleaning out a system not in control is according to HB standard operations.
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Interesting...
And I waited until system control got down to 0% before I attacked any infrastructure.
So you are saying that if ANYONE in EM sees a system with less than 50% control that it is fair game to as you say "clean out" and you would support
such action?
So if an innocent pilot went into...oh let's say Cerulean or Atlas...and did a whole bunch of missions and HB control of the system dropped below 50%
and the Reavers saw this and came in and "cleaned out" that system, you would call that fair play?
Interesting...
It really is too bad that you are not brave and honorable enough to just admit that you did wrong and apologize for it. You are showing your TRUE
self to all of EM. I thank you for continuing to dance to any tune I choose.
Taking over systems is now even easier than I originally thought. Thank you SeeJay, and I look forward to the next time that I can so easily
manipulate you into doing whatever I please.
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SeeJay
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As I also stated HB does contracts only when defending clan is online when % is more than 50%.
What you call an "innocent" pilot would probably not use a clan tag and not affect anything. (Noob)
I assume that you are going to use yet another profile with a clan tag on,
do contracts in another clans system, and state that you didn't know.
Am I right???
ALL pilots that I have asked goes with that any system below 50% is an "abandoned" system
and can be treated as such. Building/destroying or whatever you want there.
To answer your question:
If you find any HB systems below 50%, so yes, it's fair play.
(I assume that the drops in % will be done by yours or another friend of yours innocent pilot profile).
I do not admit doing anything wrong since I have acted according to my previous statements
regarding "clan wars". YOU DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OF THAT SYSTEM WHEN I GOT ON!
Btw, I might not be as manipulated as you think.
Have fun contracting away in HB systems.
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Maarschalk
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Interresting Dialogs here......I hope it is not going to be like this when we really make first contact with alien species and have inter Solar travel
through out our Galaxy........
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MMaggio
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I hope when the aliens arrive, they don't claim our planet as theirs and do to us what the europeans and white man did to the american indian.
Just because they started in Massechusets and ended up in Baha, Calif. doesn't mean they weren't great fighters!
But, since we all know they are here now, no sence worrying about it.
\"To kill hubris with humility is a goal rarely achieved by men\"
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Marvin
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I suspect the "50% Rule" will be taken up by the UP once it's formed. Until
then, I can see a lot of credits being spent doing contracts to reduce another clan's %, destroying said clan's trade stations, building your own
stations, logging off, having said clan log on, reduce (if necessary) your clan's % to below 50%, destroying your clan's stations, rebuilding .....
Who says there is no way to spend big bucks in Mercenary?
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Dave S
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This is why I freelance. Clan stuff is way too crazy complicated for me. Maybe I can start a clan called [NI] Not Involved
I miss the days when everyone got together and killed vast amounts of Vonari until we got bored, then we blew each other up for fun.
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Marvin
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| Quote: Originally posted by Dave S | | I miss the days when everyone got together and killed vast amounts of Vonari until we got bored .... |
The operative word, there, being "bored" ... with all this going on, it's
hard to get bored. Let the Vonari take a breather for awhile.
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DaveK
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| Quote: Originally posted by Maarschalk | | Interresting Dialogs here......I hope it is not going to be like this when we really make first contact with alien species........
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too late - it's common knowledge that they've got the bodies in Area 51
Callsign: Incoming
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Maarschalk
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LOL...DaveK.......
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Vonari-D
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The pack conducted some successful raids against puny huuumaanz the other night. The Vonari were amused to see clan HB begging the RVS clan for
peace.
Thank you InkedMike for showing your clan's terror for all to see. I could taste your fear and it temporarily filled my belly with glee.
To the Glory of the Pack!
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SeeJay
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| Quote: Originally posted by Vonari-D | The pack conducted some successful raids against puny huuumaanz the other night. The Vonari were amused to see clan HB begging the RVS clan for
peace.
Thank you InkedMike for showing your clan's terror for all to see. I could taste your fear and it temporarily filled my belly with glee.
To the Glory of the Pack! |
Well, that is not going to happen.
I'm the only one in HB that make up deals with other clans.
And in this case it will never happen!
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Reaver 1
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| Quote: Originally posted by SeeJay | | Quote: Originally posted by Vonari-D | The pack conducted some successful raids against puny huuumaanz the other night. The Vonari were amused to see clan HB begging the RVS clan for
peace.
Thank you InkedMike for showing your clan's terror for all to see. I could taste your fear and it temporarily filled my belly with glee.
To the Glory of the Pack! |
Well, that is not going to happen.
I'm the only one in HB that make up deals with other clans.
And in this case it will never happen! |
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I figured as much. The benevolent and peace-loving Reavers have tried sooo hard to resolve our differences, but the blood thirsty, peace-hating
"Humble Bumblebees" will yet again force our hand.
My favorite part is that I can see the divide beginning to widen within your weakened clan. InkedMike laid out the olive branch of peace, and you
PUBLICLY threw it back in his face. You disgrace your own clansmen on the same day you award them medals? You are becoming more and more of a Reaver
each and every day. You are yet again dancing to any tune I choose. WONDERFUL!!!
So at clan HB's request, the Reavers will reluctantly continue the struggle
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KingArthur
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Posts: 2564
Registered: 2-17-2011
Location: CANADA
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Mood: "DEATH TO THOSE WHO WOULD PREY ON THE WEAK"
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VONARI, As I Was Engaged In Combat With Hostile Pilots, ENEMIES Of [HB], in the True Definition of the Word, I Had NO TIME To Waste on Anything as
Insignificant as a [VONARI].
Should You Wish to Engage Me in COMBAT, I'm a SO MUCH MORE Than willing!
I shall Expect Your Answer to be some Form of Conveluted "NO" as [VONARI] are so Famous For.
Why POST When You can Let Your WEAPONS Speak For You.
I Await Your Answer Insect.
[Edited on 10-23-2011 by InkedMike]
[Edited on 10-23-2011 by InkedMike]
"HONOR AND INTEGRITY ALWAYS"
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SeeJay
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I didn't throw anything back. He knows this and therefor it can not have happened.
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KingArthur
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[RVS] REAVER 1. Your "Warped" Interptitation of our "Talk",which YOU INITIATED, Astounds ME. A Simply Offer to Bring My Commander Your Message Does
Not a Treaty MAKE.
I Sall OBEY [HB] Commanders Orders TO THE LETTER and WITHOUT RESERVATION.
And as to Your Claim to Be " Benevolent and Peace Loving", this is a DIRECT QUOTE FROM YOU:
" Just add the [RVS] clan tag before your Reaver name and then proceed to kill everyone and everything that you can!"
I See Nothing PEACEFULL In Your Recruitment Drive.
[Edited on 10-23-2011 by InkedMike]
[Edited on 10-23-2011 by InkedMike]
"HONOR AND INTEGRITY ALWAYS"
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Lex0R
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BTW, Why [RVS] did not claim any territory, don't able to protect it ? 
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